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Double A
I'm amature macro photographer from Moscow, Russia. Can't identify some flies, need your help. All photo made in Mosow region.

nature.doublea.ru/id/muha_zhu1.jpg
nature.doublea.ru/id/ezhemuha11.jpg
nature.doublea.ru/id/muha21.jpg
nature.doublea.ru/id/muha31.jpg
nature.doublea.ru/id/muha41.jpg
nature.doublea.ru/id/muha51.jpg

Thanks!

EDIT Paul Beuk: url tags replaced with img tags.
Edited by Double A on 22-08-2006 11:06
 
http://nature.doublea.ru/
crex
Double A wrote:
I'm amature macro photographer from Moscow, Russia. Can't identify some flies, need your help. All photo made in Mosow region.
http://nature.dou...a_zhu1.jpg
http://nature.dou...muha11.jpg
http://nature.dou...muha21.jpg
http://nature.dou...muha31.jpg
http://nature.dou...muha41.jpg
http://nature.dou...muha51.jpg
Thanks!


Hi and welcome Double A. Very nice photos. Sorry I can't help identify them. I think it would be better if you use the IMG instead of URL tags so the photos show up on this forum, and one species per thread. Right Paul? Wink

The first photo would look like this

nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha_zhu1.jpg
 
jorgemotalmeida
Now I will try to identify but remember I?m very, very novice in ID flies. Smile so don?t trust in them. Wink

Here are my guess:
Perhaps the first could be a Syrphidae fly...
The second one I think that fly belongs to the Tachinidae family
The third too..
The four don?t know...
The fifth perhaps Tachinidae fly
The last belongs to the Tachinidae fly.



 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/superegnum
Nikita Vikhrev
It is female Eristalinus aeneus, Syrphidae.
Nikita
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
Double A
Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
It is female Eristalinus aeneus, Syrphidae.
Nikita


Thanx a lot! And other flies? Wink
 
http://nature.doublea.ru/
Double A
crex wrote:
Hi and welcome Double A. Very nice photos. Sorry I can't help identify them. I think it would be better if you use the IMG instead of URL tags so the photos show up on this forum, and one species per thread. ]


Hi Crex! I've made a lot of undefined photos. There would be lots and lots of threads Smile
Edited by Double A on 21-08-2006 21:57
 
http://nature.doublea.ru/
Double A
jorgemotalmeida wrote:
Here are my guess:


Thanx! Smile
 
http://nature.doublea.ru/
Paul Beuk
Double A wrote:
Hi Crex! I've made a lot of undefined photos. There would be lots and lots of threads Smile

As long as you do not post them all at once but several at the time, once or twise a day, there is no problem with many threads. Grin
Paul

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Tony Irwin
ezhemuha11.jpg - Tachinidae
muha21.jpg - Muscidae, possibly Phaonia
muha31.jpg - Muscidae (I think!)
muha41.jpg - Muscidae, possibly Helina
muha51.jpg - Muscidae
And I'd agree with Crex that it's much easier for everyone if you post lots of threads, each with its own picture. Lots and lots of threads is what we love! Grin

Tony
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Tony Irwin
 
ChrisR
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/ezhemuha11.jpg is Tachinidae - possibly Solieria but I wouldn't like to bet on it!! Wink
 
http://tachinidae.org.uk
Nikita Vikhrev
"ezhemuha11.jpg - Tachinidae"
How rich is Russian language!
"ezhemuha" could be translate into English as hedgehog-fly, common name for Tachinidae. Is common name for Tachinidae family in any other language?
Grin
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
ChrisR
Boring old "Parasite Flies" in English Sad & "Raupenfleigen" (Caterpillar Flies) in German Smile They also used to be called the Larvaevoridae, which I think is a nice, appropriate name too Smile
 
http://tachinidae.org.uk
jorgemotalmeida
Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
"ezhemuha11.jpg - Tachinidae"
How rich is Russian language!
"ezhemuha" could be translate into English as hedgehog-fly, common name for Tachinidae. Is common name for Tachinidae family in any other language?
Grin



In Portuguese I think, and ARMANDO could help / confirm this, the common name for tachinid fly is: VAREJEIRA. Smile

Or translate the term directly: TACHINIDAE --> taquin?deo (which is not, of course, the common name)
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/superegnum
crex
Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
"ezhemuha11.jpg - Tachinidae"
How rich is Russian language!
"ezhemuha" could be translate into English as hedgehog-fly, common name for Tachinidae. Is common name for Tachinidae family in any other language?
Grin


In swedish it's Parasitflugor (Parasite flies) if you could call that a common name, I don't know ...
 
crex
When we get the diptera family articles, one for each family, we could write down the family names in different languages too Pfft
 
jorgemotalmeida
Tony Irwin wrote:
ezhemuha11.jpg - Tachinidae
muha21.jpg - Muscidae, possibly Phaonia
muha31.jpg - Muscidae (I think!)
muha41.jpg - Muscidae, possibly Helina
muha51.jpg - Muscidae
And I'd agree with Crex that it's much easier for everyone if you post lots of threads, each with its own picture. Lots and lots of threads is what we love! Grin



Ohh..no! I made it almost all wrong! Sad Just has two right. Sad

Why not Tachinidae for the last one?? The other Muscidae for me apparently seemed a tachinid fly. Characters... please, so, in next time, I can avoid these mistakes.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/superegnum
Nikita Vikhrev
On one hand I have to agree with Chris, that Larvaevoridae is well done.
But on the other hand all this names are approximately equal to ?Parasite Flies?. And name Parasite Flies means deep knowledge of flies biology, and so this names are all too ?scientificoformes?. But name ?hedgehog-fly? means no special knowledge, just visible strong bristles!
Nikita

Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
Double A
Tony Irwin wrote:
ezhemuha11.jpg - Tachinidae
muha21.jpg - Muscidae, possibly Phaonia
muha31.jpg - Muscidae (I think!)
muha41.jpg - Muscidae, possibly Helina
muha51.jpg - Muscidae


Thanx!


And I'd agree with Crex that it's much easier for everyone if you post lots of threads, each with its own picture. Lots and lots of threads is what we love! Grin


OK Grin
 
http://nature.doublea.ru/
Double A
Chris Raper wrote:
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/ezhemuha11.jpg is Tachinidae - possibly Solieria but I wouldn't like to bet on it!! Wink


May be. Thanx Wink
 
http://nature.doublea.ru/
Tony Irwin
jorgemotalmeida wrote:
Why not Tachinidae for the last one?? The other Muscidae for me apparently seemed a tachinid fly. Characters... please, so, in next time, I can avoid these mistakes.

If you can see the wing venation, then look for a bend in vein M. If there is no bend, then it's almost certainly not a tachinid (though there are a couple of exceptions where vein M is cut short**). If you can't see the venation (as in the last photo), then you have to use more subtle clues.
In this case, the bristles on the thorax are quite dense and long, but the bristles on the abdomen are rather weak. To me, this suggests it is not a tachinid. Also something about the shape of the body is more muscid-like. And have a look through the gallery of Tachinidae. All of them hold the wings further apart than in the muscids, which often have the wings slightly overlapping. There's no simple answer, but it does get easier as you get more experience! Wink

** see http://tachinidae...rcno=12901 and http://tachinidae...brcno=8801
Edited by Tony Irwin on 22-08-2006 10:29
Tony
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