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| Andy Chick |
Posted on 04-12-2007 16:07
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Hi is this would this appear to be Chymomyza costata ? it was tubed from a dustbin in the UK (midlands), |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 04-12-2007 16:42
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Looks like a female of the Drosophila obscura group.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 04-12-2007 17:24
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I think Paul is right (hell, or course he is  ). Chymomyza are mostly forest dwellers as their larvae develop in dead trees. PS. I like your location
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| Andy Chick |
Posted on 04-12-2007 17:49
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thank you, i reckon i might need to run this back throught the key to see where i went wrong.. by the way is the Fauna Ento Scan Key to the Family any good, (im currently using Fonsecas UK key...) |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 04-12-2007 18:00
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In my experience the FES volume is *very* good for identifying adult flies, but it nearly ignores many other interesting aspects of drosophilids. Distributions are described as "Most of Europe", usually nothing is said about the biology of individual species etc. This is really unfortunately, since Drosophilidae is one of the families where much additional information exists. Compare it with the sepsid or platypezid volumes with keys to larvae, detailed notes on there they can be found etc. and you'll see what I mean. For example, here's a breakdown of what they do with[i] Drosophila melanogaster [/i, hardly a understudied species: * Diagnosis & description or adult fly: two pages of text, plus 1.5 pages of illustrations * Distribution, full text: "A cosmopolitan, domestric species recorded almost everywhere, rare or absent in cold area; northernmost locality: Oxnadal (Iceland)." * Biology, full text: "The larvae are predominantly fruit breeders. The flies are common indoors, attracted by fruit and fermented drinks." * Additional specimens examined: 3 lines, one locatality in Swizerland * Comments: 8 lines noting its use as a laboratory animal. Edited by Kahis on 04-12-2007 18:12 Kahis |
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| Andy Chick |
Posted on 04-12-2007 18:06
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sounds better than what i have currently.... 11 pages of keys with no figures from 1965, i get what you mean about the lack of further info, (but then try using a Royal Entomological Soc Key... great for ID, but next to nothing about the fly in question!!!) |
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| Andy Chick |
Posted on 04-12-2007 18:16
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Kahis wrote: For example, here's a breakdown of what they do with Drosophila melanogaster , hardly a understudied species: * Diagnosis & description or adult fly: two pages of text, plus 1.5 pages of illustrations * Distribution, full text: "A cosmopolitan, domestric species recorded almost everywhere, rare or absent in cold area; northernmost locality: Oxnadal (Iceland)." * Biology, full text: "The larvae are predominantly fruit breeders. The flies are common indoors, attracted by fruit and fermented drinks." * Additional specimens examined: 3 lines, one locatality in Swizerland * Comments: 8 lines noting its use as a laboratory animal. if thats all it says about D melanogaster id hate to see what it says about D Obscura! Edited by Andy Chick on 04-12-2007 18:22 |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 04-12-2007 18:24
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Andy Chick wrote: if thats all it says about D melanogaster id hate to see what it says about D. obscura! Two pages in description+a page of figures, 3.5 lines on distribution (on a page with 2 columns of text), nothing on biology, two Swiss localities listed. But it has a Nordic distribution map! (some species have, other don't, I cannot see any pattern here...). Apply hate per taste 
Edited by Kahis on 04-12-2007 18:27 Kahis |
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| Andy Chick |
Posted on 05-12-2007 13:36
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a pet hate of mine is keys that dont include biology, its acts as a further aid to ID, if the location/substrate of capture matches the literature if further confirmation!, its like a specimen with out a data label! |
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