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Aphidoidea ID? -> Not further ID-able
smol	#1 Posted on 14-07-2022 16:24
Member Location: Posts: 241 Joined: 06.07.22	I was wondering if this specimen could determined further. I am aware the change is low with Aphidoidea, especially with this quality of photos. Location: The Netherlands (South), Forest area, Host plant unknown Edited by smol on 17-07-2022 14:16


eklans	#2 Posted on 15-07-2022 12:08
Member Location: Posts: 3337 Joined: 11.11.18	I can only name a possible candidate: Euceraphis betulae which feed on Betula pendula. Greetings, Eric Kloeckner


John Carr	#3 Posted on 15-07-2022 14:03
Member Location: Posts: 9773 Joined: 22.10.10	eklans wrote: I can only name a possible candidate: Euceraphis betulae which feed on Betula pendula. I have Euceraphis on birch saplings and an American expert told me species ID of winged forms is difficult and possibly impossible. They are not crop pests, so less studied, and keys prefer apterous forms. See also http://www.aphids...htm#Betula


eklans	#4 Posted on 15-07-2022 15:19
Member Location: Posts: 3337 Joined: 11.11.18	Totally agree, John - the best way to identify the alate is to see it together with the apterous forms. And you'll need good images of the wings and the antennae, too, plus the host plant. My winged adults are from October/November... Greetings, Eric Kloeckner


smol	#5 Posted on 17-07-2022 13:16
Member Location: Posts: 241 Joined: 06.07.22	Thanks for the information, John Carr and Eric. Duly noted, I will take this into account for future pictures. Possible with a better marco lens Would it be safe to say this is Euceraphis spec., or is this not id-able all together (Aphidoidea indet.)?


eklans	#6 Posted on 17-07-2022 13:43
Member Location: Posts: 3337 Joined: 11.11.18	I think, Aphididae sp. would be the safest (and nearest) ID. Greetings, Eric Kloeckner


smol	#7 Posted on 17-07-2022 14:15
Member Location: Posts: 241 Joined: 06.07.22	eklans wrote: I think, Aphididae sp. would be the safest (and nearest) ID. Thank you! Better luck next time.