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Sarcophagidae or Tachinidae (northern France)=> Sarcophagidae
clovis
Hi,

Here is a specimen I'm not sure about the family.

To me, this big subscutellum should make it a Tachinidae, but I can't make it fit in any genus (and with those longs hairs on arista, I believe it should be easy!)
So maybe I am wrong and it is a Sarcophagidae?

This specimen has two post ia
Prosternum hairy
3 post dc,
R1 hairy
from radio cubital node, hairy till halfway to rm.
Eyes bare

(Lateral view of the head gives a strange impression of hairs on the face. It is same individu)

Caught in the dunes.

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos315/big/Sarco.JPG
clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022
Altitude : 9 m - Taille : 6 mm
Réf. : 315684

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos315/big/Sarco2.JPG
clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022
Altitude : 9 m - Taille : 6 mm
Réf. : 315685

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos315/big/Sarco%203.JPG
clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022
Altitude : 9 m - Taille : 6 mm
Réf. : 315683

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos315/big/Sarco%20antennes.JPG
clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022
Altitude : 9 m - Taille : 6 mm
Réf. : 315682

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos315/big/Sarco5.JPG
clovis : France : Groffliers : 62600 : 09/05/2022
Altitude : 10 m - Taille : 6 mm
Réf. : 315691
Edited by clovis on 01-12-2022 11:36
 
Zeegers
Very few Tachinds have paraficial bristles, a clear key pointing towards Sarcs. The ‘big postscutellum’ you mentioned is not the postscutellum, but the structure below it. The postscutellum is actually narrow.

Theo
 
clovis
Aaaah, I now have the explanation! Sarcophagidae was my intuition, but couldn't find how to objectify it!
I didn't know that some structure could imitate the postscutellum, I'll have to be carefull.

A family I know almost nothing about, I'll keep this specimen for a day I'll get to it.
For now, I have to finish all my Tachinidae of the year!

Thanks for the help Wink
Edited by clovis on 24-11-2022 20:02
 
Zeegers
Take a Dinera, Tachina or other laege Tachinidae and study the postscutellum and the strucure below it. Then restudy this Sarc and you will reach enlightenment Smile

Theo
 
clovis
You are right, it is now quite clear! Grin
 
Zeegers
“If I was wrong, don’t you think I’d know it ? “

( Sheldon, Big Bang Theory)

 
clovis
I did not expect Sheldon to be quoted on this forum^^

I had to catch a Sarcophagidae once to understand this subscutellum thing! Now i'm sure I won't miss any Calliphoridae hidden in my Tachinidae to Id!
 
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