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 Identified as 'Parageron gratus' by David Gibbs
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| valter |
Posted on 10-02-2008 18:54
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Date Photo Taken: February 9, 2008 Location: Azinhal, Portugal 
Edited by valter on 11-02-2008 12:31 |
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| javig |
Posted on 10-02-2008 19:12
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Parageron cf. gratus, male the female here http://diptera.in...d_id=11163 Saludos. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-02-2008 19:53
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lucky these guys!!! I want to see these beauties! This is Bombyliidae - Parageron sp. Very common in the South... I haven't seen any Bombyliid so far.... They didn't reach the North yet...  |
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| valter |
Posted on 10-02-2008 21:47
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According to Fauna Europaea there are only 1 Species in Portugal: Parageron incisus And there are more 4 Species in Europe: - Parageron gratus - Parageron loewi - Parageron punctipennis - Parageron striatus What Species could be this one? What are the main differences among them? Thanks. Edited by valter on 10-02-2008 21:48 |
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| javig |
Posted on 11-02-2008 00:21
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I think this is a genus needed revision in Southern Europa. According to Iberfauna database there are 3 species in Pen?nsula Ib?rica: gratus, loewi and incisus. I am also interested in knowing the difference  |
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| valter |
Posted on 11-02-2008 09:04
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Parageron cf. gratus Identified as Parageron incisus: http://flickr.com/photos/77786465@N00/398945061/ 
Edited by valter on 11-02-2008 23:47 |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 11-02-2008 12:26
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All of these are Parageron gratus as this taxon is currently defined but i have yet to examine the type. incisus is a large species with shorter, pale hairs on frons. loewi is a species cloce to aurata, not sure yet if it they should be placed in Parageron or Usia punctipennis is a spotted winged species of the eastern Med (Italy east) martini might also be a Parageron, not seen this one yet and male unknown. type locaity of martini is near Padul south of Granada 1300m 1 May 1966 when just 2 females taken, as far as i know none have been found since so anyone lucky enough to spend time in this area do get out there and look. |
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| Andre |
Posted on 11-02-2008 16:05
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Unfortunately valter is not interested in collecting them... 
Edited by Andre on 11-02-2008 16:06 |
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| javig |
Posted on 11-02-2008 20:20
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my photos are taken 15 Km from Padul  I will look... the female copied by valter, and this male are taken 15 Km north of Padul, and very similar vegetation... http://diptera.in...d_id=11171 is known the host of these Parageron? |
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| valter |
Posted on 11-02-2008 23:42
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[quote]David Gibbs wrote: All of these are Parageron gratus as this taxon is currently defined but i have yet to examine the type. incisus is a large species with shorter, pale hairs on frons. Hello! 3x Biggest than the below  I take some photos of an extra small Parageron like this one (3x smallest than the first one):  That is a small bee identified as Lasioglossum sp. Edited by valter on 12-02-2008 00:01 |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 12-02-2008 10:33
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these are also gratus females, as is the one identified as incisus on flicker. most beeflies can vary enormously in size, largely because as parasitoides their final size is dependent on the size of the host they find. i know of no host for Parageron but Usia have been reared from a tenebriod beetle and locust egg pods. |
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