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Syrphidae? -> Eumerus sp.
javig
Sierra Nevada, Granada, Spain. 2500 m. 1 July 07.

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Bad photo, sorry.
Edited by javig on 14-02-2008 19:47
 
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Andre
Very interesting Eumerus sp., male... Please collect it next time Wink
 
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javig
Thanks for the ID! Smile
 
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Andre
Maybe it's Eumerus tricolor... I am not home right now.. hope to remember to try to make a more accurate guess tomorrow.
Or maybe someone else does?
 
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Maddin
What about Eumerus nigrostriatus? It is really hard to tell from a picture - too many of these beautiful flies...
Martin Hauser
 
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Andre
Eyes are separated, while it's a male: sabulonum/tricolor/ovatus. Can't see with certainty if the eyes are hairy (tricolor/ovatus), but it looks like it. Sabulonum may usually have more red on T3. Abdomen looks densely covered with silverish hairs; thorax looks to have a blueish shine. This makes me, at this stage, I'd vote for ovatus.

@ Martin: as far as I know now, nigrostriatus Lambeck, 1973 is a junior synonym of etnensis Van der Goot, 1964 (same with purpurariae Ba?z, 1982. Etnensis male has eyes holoptic and bare.

Any comments... please! I am still studying on Iberian species.... Pfft
 
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Maddin
You are right with the synonym! But I am not so sure if the eyes are really separated... I agree it is a male and that the eyes could be dichoptic... I got some spanish Eumerus data if you are interested...
Cheers
Martin
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Andre
I am certainly interested Martin! Do you also have specimens?
Please contact my by email for further details etc.. thanks!
 
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Maddin
Hi Andre,
did you get my email?
cheers Martin
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Andre
01:10h local time: not yet
 
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John Smit
Hi Andre and Martin,

Just a comment on the synonymy stated by Andre, E. nigrostriatus Lambeck is indeed a synonym of E. etnensis Van der Goot. But E. purpureus Baez is a valid species, an endemic of the Canary Isles: Smit, J.T., Fraquinho Aguiar, A.M. & A. Wakeham-Dawson. 2004. The hoverflies (Diptera: Syrphidae) of the Madeira archipelago, Portugal. Dipterists Digest 11(1): 47-82.

But I have no ID yet for the species photographed here... Though I am sure it's not E. ovatus, to elongated and no silvery hairs visible at the tip of the aabdomen...

John
 
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Andre
John Smit wrote:
Hi Andre and Martin,

Just a comment on the synonymy stated by Andre, E. nigrostriatus Lambeck is indeed a synonym of E. etnensis Van der Goot. But E. purpureus Baez is a valid species, an endemic of the Canary Isles: Smit, J.T., Fraquinho Aguiar, A.M. & A. Wakeham-Dawson. 2004. The hoverflies (Diptera: Syrphidae) of the Madeira archipelago, Portugal. Dipterists Digest 11(1): 47-82.

John


Hi John. I didn't write purpureus (I know that's a valid endemic species), but purpurariae.
 
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John Smit
Hi Andre,

My fault, I meant E. purpurariae...
Both E. purpurariae and E. purpureus occur on the Canaries and both are mentioned in the paper refered to... I can't help people comming up with those confusing names.. Wink

John
 
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Andre
T?bem! Thank you John Smile
 
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