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| Gordon Jar |
Posted on 11-01-2006 16:49
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Can anyone assist me with this fly. Photographed in my garden in south east England during October 05. I haven't seen one before or since. Many thanks Gordon  |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 11-01-2006 20:00
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I think it is one of the Heleomyzidae.
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 12-01-2006 09:47
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a female of Suillia Andrzej W |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-01-2006 11:31
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I see the humeral (postpronotal) seta is missing. The wing does not appear to maculate. Can you narrow down to species or species group on the basis of the leg colour (pale, last two tarsal segments blackish)?
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 12-01-2006 14:48
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Maybe it is S. bicolor, but I am not sure, the first flagellomere is less than ?pubescent, costal spines very short, nothing about scutellum (should be covered by pale hairs ... The plaural and maesonotal colouration in this species is more than variable. Andrzej W.  |
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| Gordon Jar |
Posted on 12-01-2006 18:42
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Many thanks. It is a new family for me. I think I understand most of the comments except ' maesonotal colouration'. I can't find reference to this. So excuse my ignorance but could you explain what this is ? Thankyou Gordon |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-01-2006 21:48
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Spelling should be 'pleural and mesonotal', meaning the lateral and dorsal parts of the thorax before the scutellum.
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 13-01-2006 13:09
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Rigth !, Paul corrected it profesionally ! mesonotum and pleura is correct !. As regard first flagellomere I mean the arista !!! Sorry, it's my fault !.  Sometimes I make mistakes. I am only a human being ! Errare humanum est ! (a latin sentence)  Andrzej W. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 13-01-2006 13:27
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Andrzej wrote: Sometimes I make mistakes. I am only a human being ! LoL, did you just find out or is it a shout of disappointment?
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 13-01-2006 13:49
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Ha ! re: Nil humanum a me alienum esse puto !. Andrzej |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 13-01-2006 14:12
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And to me.
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 13-01-2006 14:32
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I'm so sorry !. There is a second part of a sentence: I am a human being; nothing human is strange to me ! Andrzej |
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| Gordon Jar |
Posted on 13-01-2006 16:19
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Thankyou very much. 'The man (or woman) that never makes a mistake, never makes anything' Gordon |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 13-01-2006 16:54
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Dear Gordon, Thanks for your warm words ! Andrew |
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