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Stratiomyidae pupa from ant's nest, Hungary
pwalter
Hi, this pupa was under a stone where an ant species made it's nest. Around 9 mm long. April, NE Hungary
 
caliprobola
Clitellaria ephippium is the only NW-European soldier fly of which larvae live in ants' nests as far as i know, i don't know if there are other species in Central-Europe that have the same kind of ecology.
 
pwalter
Thank You! And hat if it was only accidentally under the rock? Or is that unlikely because ant's would have eaten any other pupa?
 
caliprobola
I'm not an expert at all in soldier flies nor their larvae but i think most larvae that live in the ground, live in rather moist conditions where there's a lot of organic material.
The pupa looks rather typical, as Clitellaria is a real specialist living in ants' nests i guess there should be some literature describing the larva and/or pupa.
 
Tony Irwin
I don't think this is Clitellaria - the shape of the last segment is not right. I think it us more likely to be Chloromyia or a similar species. Remember that Stratiomyiidae are like many other flies - the pupa is actually formed within the last larval skin - the puparium, so features of the last instar larva are usually visible on the puparium.
Tony
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atylotus
It can't be Clitellaria as Rozkozny (1973) gives a lenght of 25-32 mm for the mature larvae. It looks more like a Pachygasterinae or Sarginae (in this case Microchrysa or Chloromyia, not Sargus)
 
pwalter
Hi, this larva became adult, I show photos in adult forum.
Edited by pwalter on 18-06-2009 21:25
 
Tony Irwin
Good to have a result - you could post this in the gallery now!
Tony
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