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Xaver Frank
Hello!

In Switzerland there sat this fly on a thistle today. Can you help me, please, to identify this Syrphidae? The patterns on its abdomen let me know, that it is genus Scaeva and I heard, that they can identify these Syrphidae on photos by only a good key.

foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/17/2259617/3330663636386431.jpg

Thank you for your help, Xaver
 
Sparrow
Mb Scaeva dignota

key:
http://home.hccne...e_key.html
 
Gisela Merkel-Wallner
Hello,

for me it looks more like Eupeodes lapponicus

Gisela
 
Xaver Frank
Thank you, Gisela!

Can you state the differences between Eupeodes corollae and E. lapponicus for me? Wikipedia User Wofl rather identified this fly as E. corollae...

Greetings Wink
 
Kahis
Which shows that while Wikipedia in often useful, any fact in it can be wrong. Real corollae female have yellow spots that reach the edge of tergites (the plates forming the upper surfave of abdomen). The 5th tergite should have yellow edges and the spots are also a bit too narrow for corollae. Many of the photos found by a Google image search appear to be misidentified, but the first two photos on this page has real corollae.

The best character for lapponicus is in the wing venation and it can not be seen in a flying insect.

I'm not a specialist in syrphidae and will not hasard a guess on the real identity of your fly. Could be a Eupeodes nielseni, or a dark E. lundbecki, or a E. lapponicus - or a Dasysyrphus?
Kahis
 
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