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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 29-03-2010 08:22
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Confused about this terminology: Is Abrus pulchellus subsp. pulchellus equal Abrus pulchellus ? Is Abrus pulchellus subsp. pulchellus equal Abrus pulchellus var. pulchellus ? highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-03-2010 09:11
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From the (perhaps) simplistic view of zoological nomenclature: Abrus pulchellus was described and later a 'var. tenuiflorus' was described. That would 'automatically' make the original var. the nominate var. When the var.'s were raised to subsp.'s the nominate var. became the nominate subsp. pulchellus. So, that would be the second option.
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 23-08-2010 12:36
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so I'm at this again. Certain author who knows his job , found both of those in certain area. Vicia grandiflora Vicia grandiflora subsp. grandiflora if I put this into terms of car: car red car red subsp. red What does this tell me ? both are car and both are read. But are they exact same model exact same colored ? Edited by BubikolRamios on 23-08-2010 12:37 highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 23-08-2010 12:50
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When you see "car red subsp. red" it is just more precise than "car red" and it also suggests that there might be another subsp. somewhere - like "car red subsp. blue" 
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 23-08-2010 12:59
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that is then: car red = car red subsp. red infact, just runed into one real example of that: http://www.ars-gr....pl?313996 although then strange why Vicia grandiflora Vicia grandiflora subsp. grandiflora both on same list here: http://www.digita...k_jost.pdf Edited by BubikolRamios on 09-11-2014 20:21 highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 23-08-2010 13:22
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BubikolRamios wrote: that is then: car red = car red subsp. red No ... "car red" is just not precise - it could mean "car red subsp. red" OR "car red subsp. blue", they just haven't said which sub-species it it
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| atylotus |
Posted on 30-08-2010 15:09
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I agree with Chris. They just didn't discriminate between the subspecies /varieties and merely means s.l. Vicia grandiflora can mean s.l. (unknown which variety) or s.str. (V. grandiflora. var. grandiflora). If there is no addition to the species name then it is unknown which red car it is. |
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but don't see the image in the post.