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| valter |
Posted on 06-04-2010 21:53
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Location: Algarve, Portugal Date: April 2010  Size: smaller than Musca domestica Thanks, Valter Edited by valter on 27-04-2010 08:49 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-04-2010 22:15
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Muscidae. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 06-04-2010 22:37
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Coenosia ? |
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| valter |
Posted on 07-04-2010 17:56
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Fannia manicata  |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 07-04-2010 20:47
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I am sorry, but can you convince me why you think it is a Fannia manicata..? The orbital plates+orbitals are indeed Fannia like, but i don't see the typical sc line on the wings..? And i also see an ad seta on the fore tibia and i thought F.manicata has not... Joke
Edited by javanerkelens on 07-04-2010 20:53 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 07-04-2010 21:48
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Not Fannia, and not Coenosia. The wing venation is odd (no M-Cu ?). I think more about a Tachinid (Phytomyptera nigrina has this kind of venation, but I absolutely don't know this species).
Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 07-04-2010 21:49 Stephane. |
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| valter |
Posted on 07-04-2010 22:02
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javanerkelens wrote: I am sorry, but can you convince me why you think it is a Fannia manicata..? The orbital plates+orbitals are indeed Fannia like, but i don't see the typical sc line on the wings..? And i also see an ad seta on the fore tibia and i thought F.manicata has not... Joke You can see the outcurved orbital seta and two dorsal setae on hind tibia. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 07-04-2010 22:17
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if tachinid... it would be a very, very unusual one! |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 07-04-2010 22:31
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I don't see strong calypters... I get a feeling it even could be an Anthomyiidae. (there are some species with outcurved orbitals....) Joke |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 07-04-2010 22:40
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Collect it! Hope you find it again. |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 08-04-2010 08:04
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Not a tachinid, at least not a Phytomyptera. How about one of those strange small calliphorids? Angioneura etc? (Not any species we have in the Nordic countries) |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 08-04-2010 17:26
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Ok, I was on the wrong way : the vein M should be complete and reaching the wing margin, and DM-Cu should be present. Thus it is an Antho, and with the costa stopping at R4+5 level, I propose an Acyglossa sp. (2 species).
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 08-04-2010 20:25
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Yes !!! That is the one! Compliments A.pollinosa = interfrontals present + thorax and abdomen greyish dusted A.atramentaria = interfrontals absent + thorax and abdomen shining blackish with sparesely greyish dusting Edited by javanerkelens on 08-04-2010 20:26 |
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but don't see the image in the post.