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Hemyda?
Dmitry Gavryushin
26.08.2006, two specimens were collected on leaves of Urtica dioica, others were seen on flowers of Solidago canadensis.
Size 8mm.
 
Dmitry Gavryushin
Another view.
 
Dmitry Gavryushin
The head.
 
Zeegers
Right.
It is Hemyda obscuripennis.


Theo Zeegers
 
Dmitry Gavryushin
Many thanks Theo.
 
jorgemotalmeida
Awesome head! What a shot!
 
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Dmitry Gavryushin
2 jorgemotalmeida: thanks a lot - I also like how it looks like - pretty bare when compared with most of other Tachinidae - I'd say the fly has rather funny habits, somewhat spider-like, running around on leaves and changing its position.
 
Tony Irwin
It's an intriguing thought that this might be a spider mimic, and your pictures certainly give this impression. But I wonder whether being a spider mimic would offer any advantage to the fly? Most birds readily eat spiders, so there's no advantage there. Something to ponder on ...
Tony
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Tony Irwin
 
ChrisR
I saw H.vitata about a month ago and I was surprised by it's strange behaviour. Scurrying around on leaves, like a lot of tachinids, but in a very drunken way - very odd. I am not sure it was like a spider though - the colouration is similar to flies like Xylota segnis or ichneumons.
 
http://tachinidae.org.uk
jorgemotalmeida
Tony Irwin wrote:
It's an intriguing thought that this might be a spider mimic, and your pictures certainly give this impression. But I wonder whether being a spider mimic would offer any advantage to the fly? Most birds readily eat spiders, so there's no advantage there. Something to ponder on ...


Really the legs of this tachinid resembles to me a very strong appearance with spiders! And the odd locomotion is intriguing! Perhaps it likes vodka. Smile

Are there anymore tachinid that shows this behaviour? Where can I find easily this tachinid? I am very interesting to see that so peculiar movement! Smile Thank you!
 
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Dmitry Gavryushin
Well spiders was the first thing that came into my mind when I saw that fly with its crooked legs, maybe I was wrong about it. Since I saw at least half a dozen of specimens in one day, both on leaves and on flowers, I guess it is rather common (in right time at right location).
 
ChrisR
Hemyda vitata is quite rare in England - and restricted to areas of old/ancient woodland. Not sure about H.obscuripennis in Europe though - but I am guessing it is commoner because phasiines tend to like warmer climates Smile
 
http://tachinidae.org.uk
Zeegers
Are these from Moscow ?
According to www.faunaeur.org, Moscow is far north of the 'known' distribution.


Theo
 
Dmitry Gavryushin
Yes they are Theo (Naro-Fominsk, ca. 70km SW of Moscow)
 
Zeegers
Well, that is surprisingly north.

Thanks

Theo
 
Dmitry Gavryushin
Another visual evidence: today I've seen one more specimen on the underside of Tilia cordata leaf at the edge of a pine forest (less than 1km away from the previous location).
 
Zeegers
don't get me wrong:
your pictures are much more convincing than the older russian literature!
The occurence of H. obscuripennis might be quite new: the species is expending north as are many other Phasiinae. Often quite rapidly.
Global warming.

Theo Zeegers
 
Dmitry Gavryushin
Please don't get me wrong, too Theo Wink - maybe it's just another proof that Tachinidae were not frequently (if ever) collected and/or observed at my location.
 
Dmitry Gavryushin
I've found a host record (for Japan) - Arma custos, Pentatomidae (Nishiyama, M. M. Iwasa, and K. Hori. 1995. Parasitism by tachinid flies (Diptera, Tachinidae) of heteropterous insects in Tokachi, Hokkaido. Japanese Journal of Entomology 63(1):159-165.)
 
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