Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 4

· Members Online: 0

· Total Members: 4,945
· Newest Member: millenin
Forum Threads
Newest Threads
· Unknown Stratiomyida...
· Milichiidae?->Chloro...
· Heleomyzidae ?
· Ceratopogonidae (Ton...
· Bibionidae: Bibio re...
Hottest Threads
No Threads created
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· Marcello15 weeks
· Paul Beuk46 weeks
· JWV60 weeks
· Nosferatumyia72 weeks
· daveb2172 weeks
· guplox72 weeks
· ESant72 weeks
· Jan Maca72 weeks
· libor72 weeks
· Reimund Ley72 weeks
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info » Identification queries » Diptera (adults)
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
Ochthera
Nikita Vikhrev
South Turkey, end May.
Is it our O. mantis or there existe other possibilities in Antalia?
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
Paul Beuk
There will be more...
Paul

- - - -

Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info
 
diptera.info
Tony Irwin
This is Ochthera schembrii (=mantispa) female. The only other similar species (not recorded in Turkey yet) is pilimana which has yellow bases to the mid and hind tibiae and more extensively darkened tarsi.
I love this photo! Cool
Tony
----------
Tony Irwin
 
Nikita Vikhrev
Thank you Tony!
Nikita,
very much surprised that it is female.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
jorgemotalmeida
Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
Thank you Tony!
Nikita,
very much surprised that it is female.


Awesome fly that mimics a praying mantis!
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/superegnum
Dmitry Gavryushin
Well, it's hardly Mantodea mimicry, taking into account the size Wink. Maybe just analogous organs?
However, one type of feeding behavior not previously reported was observed in 0. mantis. In the first observation of this behavior pattern, the fly repeatedly probed the substrate with its proboscis and, after doing so extensively at one point, it excavated with its fore tibial spines a chironomid larva. The predator held the larva between the tibiae and femora of its raptorial fore legs, punctured it with its labella and began consuming it.


Deonier, D. L. - Observations on Mating, Oviposition, and Food Habits of Certain Shore Flies (Diptera: Ephydridae) - The Ohio Journal of Science. v72 n1 (January, 1972), 22-29.

https://kb.osu.ed...01_022.pdf
 
Jan Willem
Hi Nikita,

Nikita wrote:
very much surprised that it is female.


Why?? Looking at the tip op the abdomen I would have been surprised if Tony had told us it was a male specimen!

Jan Willem
 
Nikita Vikhrev
I didn't look at abdomen, I looked at forelegs...
But Dima explained me what she does with forelegs...
Nikita
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
Tony Irwin
Both male and female Ochthera use their raptorial (predatory) forelegs for catching food, in much the same way that a mantis does. (Of course there are quite a few even smaller Empididae that do the same.) If you catch a live Ochthera and put it in a tube with a small chironomid, it will often demonstrate the technique!
As Jan points out, the abdomen tip looks female, but also in this genus the males often have a modified fore tarsus, with a sensory pit containing large bristles. (Not all species show this, so it is best to rely on the abdomen shape.)
Tony
----------
Tony Irwin
 
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Ephydridae ID → Ochthera Diptera (adults) 4 08-08-2021 13:48
From Madrid -> Probably Ochthera schembrii Diptera (adults) 8 23-10-2020 22:05
Ochthera spec. (NL) Diptera (adults) 4 15-10-2018 18:13
Ephydridae Ochthera schembri Diptera (adults) 3 18-08-2018 17:45
Fly ID. >Ochthera mantis Diptera (adults) 5 15-08-2018 13:54
Date and time
12 July 2025 03:14
Login
Username

Password



Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

17.08.23 15:23
Aneomochtherus

17.08.23 13:54
Tony, I HAD a blank in the file name. Sorry!

17.08.23 13:44
Tony, thanks! I tried it (see "Cylindromyia" Wink but don't see the image in the post.

17.08.23 11:37
pjt - just send the post and attached image. Do not preview thread, as this will lose the link to the image,

16.08.23 08:37
Tried to attach an image to a forum post. jpg, 32kB, 72dpi, no blanks, ... File name is correctly displayed, but when I click "Preview Thread" it just vanishes. Help!

23.02.23 21:29
Has anyone used the Leica DM500, any comments.

27.12.22 21:10
Thanks, Jan Willem! Much appreciated. Grin

19.12.22 11:33
Thanks Paul for your work on keeping this forum available! Just made a donation via PayPal.

09.10.22 17:07
Yes, dipterologists from far abroad, please buy your copy at veldshop. Stamps will be expensive, but he, the book is unreasonably cheap Smile

07.10.22 11:55
Can any1 help out with a pdf copy of 1941 Hammer. Vidensk. Meddel. Dansk Naturhist. Foren. 105; thank you

Render time: 1.19 seconds | 196,113,692 unique visits