Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 3

· Members Online: 0

· Total Members: 4,945
· Newest Member: millenin
Forum Threads
Newest Threads
· Unknown Stratiomyida...
· Milichiidae?->Chloro...
· Heleomyzidae ?
· Ceratopogonidae (Ton...
· Bibionidae: Bibio re...
Hottest Threads
No Threads created
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· Marcello15 weeks
· Paul Beuk46 weeks
· JWV60 weeks
· Nosferatumyia72 weeks
· daveb2172 weeks
· guplox72 weeks
· ESant72 weeks
· Jan Maca72 weeks
· libor72 weeks
· Reimund Ley72 weeks
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info » Family forums » Syrphidae
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
Eristalis with 'deep' head?
Jason G
Evening all,

I collected this fly in May or so, in London. Now, I've tried keying it out using van Veen's key (I'll get S&F once I have a few more RES keys while they're in stock), and got to coup. 9 - http://web.archive.org/web/20070423163827/http://home.hccnet.nl/mp.van.veen/KEYS/Eristalis/eristkey.html#item9

Now, under the microscope the tarsi are dark brown with few pale hairs except for the basal half of the first tarsus which is pale. I think this steers it away from pertinax, and away from arbustorum since the top-half of tibia2 is pale.

Now, the head in profile appears quite deep (to me!), but jugorum isn't on the British list. If it isn't this one, then following it on you come to lineata - except there are no black hairs at all on T3-4 - distal or otherwise.

So... any thoughts on the basis of these images? I don't know how accurate the key is compared to Mark's original work and I will try with the UK key when I get it - but can get additional photographs if they may help.

Thanks for reading.

Take care,

Jason
Edited by Jason G on 01-11-2010 02:23
London's Insects http://londoninve...hostia.com
 
Jason G
Lateral... note the apparently dark tarsi and the way the lower part of the head is quite 'inflamed' - it's deeper than my others - E. tenax, arbustorum and intricarius.
Edited by Jason G on 01-11-2010 00:54
London's Insects http://londoninve...hostia.com
 
Jason G
Head...

I suspect it IS pertinax, it just looks quite unusual in my limited experience.
Edited by Jason G on 01-11-2010 01:02
London's Insects http://londoninve...hostia.com
 
Auratus
It seems the pterostigma is very small. Also an important feature Wink
Greetings,

Jan
 
Jason G
New views taken today - the Pterostigma...
London's Insects http://londoninve...hostia.com
 
Jason G
Side-view of the head...
London's Insects http://londoninve...hostia.com
 
Jason G
...and the front tarsi - brownish, not yellow in my opinion.
London's Insects http://londoninve...hostia.com
 
Quaedfliegh
I think Jan is referring to a species with small pterostigma; E. nemorum. With Dutch key that is the conclusion.
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
Mariastraat 12
Jason G
Sorry Jan! I didn't see your reply. Apologies! That looks great - isn't that now Eristalis interrupta?

Thanks for highlighting that for me + providing the name, Reinoud!

I'll now back-track through the couplets, and find where I went wrong.

Thanks again! Smile
London's Insects http://londoninve...hostia.com
 
Andre
'Deep head'....? LOL Pfft
 
www.biomongol.org
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Eristalis Syrphidae 5 20-11-2023 11:36
Eristalis transversa Syrphidae 2 14-11-2023 21:26
Eristalis? Syrphidae 4 03-09-2023 14:52
Eristalis, female -> Eristalis nemorum Syrphidae 3 22-08-2023 20:32
Male Eristalis intricaria << Volucella pellucens? Syrphidae 3 13-08-2023 12:18
Date and time
10 July 2025 20:49
Login
Username

Password



Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

17.08.23 15:23
Aneomochtherus

17.08.23 13:54
Tony, I HAD a blank in the file name. Sorry!

17.08.23 13:44
Tony, thanks! I tried it (see "Cylindromyia" Wink but don't see the image in the post.

17.08.23 11:37
pjt - just send the post and attached image. Do not preview thread, as this will lose the link to the image,

16.08.23 08:37
Tried to attach an image to a forum post. jpg, 32kB, 72dpi, no blanks, ... File name is correctly displayed, but when I click "Preview Thread" it just vanishes. Help!

23.02.23 21:29
Has anyone used the Leica DM500, any comments.

27.12.22 21:10
Thanks, Jan Willem! Much appreciated. Grin

19.12.22 11:33
Thanks Paul for your work on keeping this forum available! Just made a donation via PayPal.

09.10.22 17:07
Yes, dipterologists from far abroad, please buy your copy at veldshop. Stamps will be expensive, but he, the book is unreasonably cheap Smile

07.10.22 11:55
Can any1 help out with a pdf copy of 1941 Hammer. Vidensk. Meddel. Dansk Naturhist. Foren. 105; thank you

Render time: 1.29 seconds | 196,103,263 unique visits