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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 30-09-2006 19:30
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Turkey, Side, 28 sept. Using Zimin's key species level ID is impossible. But it seems to me that here there are experts which know the way. If so, please, explain me how. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 30-09-2006 21:14
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Hi Nikita - Nice shot! It's a Musca, but not a species I know . It could be sorbens, but your nice shot doesn't show any of the key characters!  Amazingly there are no images of sorbens available on the net (according to Google) - despite it being one of the most important disease vectors in the world! Another good reason to support Diptera.info! 
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 30-09-2006 21:30
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Thank you Tony. Could it be Musca larvipara? Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 30-09-2006 22:11
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I did consider that but Zimin suggests that autumnalis and larvipara are very similar (apart from the suprasquamal and genal hairs). Your specimen and autumnalis have very different thoracic markings, which I would have though he would have mentioned - but I might be wrong!  
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 01-10-2006 11:06
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Tony, I collected several more flies (to broke out wing and find suprasquamal hairs). My result is: sternite 1 with hairs (so, not M. sorbens), only hind suprasquamal hairs (I'm not sure), front very narrow - M. domestica vicina. May be? Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 01-10-2006 15:14
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Nikita - Check the propleural depression (just in front of the anterior spiracle) for short black hairs - if it is bare, it is not domestica.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 28-09-2007 20:50
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Again in Side. Last year I regarded 2-nd sternite as 1-st. Really 1-st is bare. It seems it is really M.sorbens Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 02-10-2007 19:53
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Excellent! This is a really important photo - as I said before - no other photos of sorbens available on the net!
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 02-10-2007 20:03
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Collect several flies for you, Tony?
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 02-10-2007 20:15
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Thanks, Nikita!!
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-10-2007 20:50
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An addition about life of M.sorbens: M.sorbens as a prey of Oxybelus quatuordecimnotatus. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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but don't see the image in the post.