 What it is the main CHARACTER?
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| awab |
Posted on 20-04-2007 19:43
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What it is the main CHARACTER between Fanniidae & Muscidae? so I can distinguish between them. Thanx  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-04-2007 19:59
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wing venation is good character for example: see this http://www.flycon...6A-F.shtml BUT this is the WRONG section for this kind of question. You should put it in GENERAL QUERIES section. Paul Beuk will migrate this to the correct section I think.  Jordan... let?s go see some interesting flies. 
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| crex |
Posted on 20-04-2007 20:20
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Wikipedia: The Fanniidae were once a sub-family of Muscidae from which they may be distinguished by: A (strictly)dorsal bristle on the hind tibia below the middle and in addition to the dorsal preapical; axillary vein strongly curved towards the wingtip so as if extended the axillary and anal veins would meet before reaching the wing tip; in males middle tibia with erect pubescence beneath; in females frontalia without crossed bristles, frontal orbits broad, convex towards median line of frons and with two pairs of strong upper orbital bristles, the anterior pair turned outwards ... |
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| awab |
Posted on 20-04-2007 20:24
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I appreciate your help, and her in a fly from JORDAN ... |
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| awab |
Posted on 20-04-2007 20:24
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| awab |
Posted on 20-04-2007 20:26
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Iam a studant working on Forensic Entomology , I want simple things to used, thanx u all |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 20-04-2007 20:49
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My first guess is that the photographs are of tachinids (parasite flies), not muscids (vein-M is angled and the body has some strong bristles). But I am not good enough to be able to suggest a name for something flying in Jordan I think it might be possible to arrive at an identification with a specimen, but not a photograph  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-04-2007 20:58
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well for forensic entomology: Sarcophagidae, Calliphoridae, Phoridae, Piophilidae, Muscidae and Fanniidae are the most important talking in dipters (coleopters, some hymenopterans, moths, etc are the others). I think that piophilid flies "visits" more other corpses than the human corpse.. (not sure about this).
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-04-2007 07:49
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Dear Awab The last picture is of a Tachinidae in the genus Linnaemyia. You are welcome to send me specimens for ID (please use private mail of this forum). I agree with Chris, we from Europe can't help you in these cases without the real material in our hands. It is difficult enough, Tachinidae, as it is. Theo Zeegers |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 21-04-2007 07:58
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The first pic might show a Pollenia sp, female. I do not knwo whether this Calliphorid genus has any forensic significance, since most Pollenia are thought to develop in earth worms, as far as I know.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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