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Mating on my chair in the garden.
wilde
Do they belong to the Muscidae? Which species?
Edited by wilde on 23-04-2007 13:47
Albert de Wilde
 
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Zeegers
Musca it is, species seems to be autumnalis


Theo Zeegers
 
wilde
Thanks for your help.
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wilde
The eyes of the male don't reach eachother. Isn't it more likely to be Musca domestica?
Edited by wilde on 09-02-2008 18:32
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wilde
My photo doesn't match with the photos in the gallery of M. autumnalis. Nobody willing to give further comments?
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Nikita Vikhrev
Theo was right, it is M.autumnalis - male frons is rather wide, and female has wide parafrontalia and narrow interfrontalia.
Nikita
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
wilde
Thanks, but what are parafrontalia and interfrontalia? I never heard of these words.
On the internet I found out that the room between the eyes at the top of the head are the parafrontalia, but interfrontalia still are a puzzle. Please explain it to me.

Crex photo in the gallery shows a male C. autumnalis with eyes without any room between them at the top. Is its name wrong?
Edited by wilde on 09-02-2008 18:48
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Stephane Lebrun
Hello,
parafrontaliae are the fronto-orbital plates, which are on each side of the middle dark vitta, called frontalia.

Male Musca autumnalis has touching orbital plates or nearly so, but always narrower than in M. domestica.
Stephane.
 
Andre
Please look at the 'glossary' section of this site, for more info Wink
 
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jorgemotalmeida
Musca autumnalis alright! Wink
 
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jorgemotalmeida
Stephane Lebrun wrote:
Hello,
parafrontaliae are the fronto-orbital plates, which are on each side of the middle dark vitta, called frontalia.

Male Musca autumnalis has touching orbital plates or nearly so, but always narrower than in M. domestica.


see also the Overviews section. There are almost everything over there. Wink
 
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Andre
Damn.. can't find those words in the Glossary... Sad
 
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Nikita Vikhrev
Frons consist of 3 parts - central one - interfrontalia, and two parafrontalia on both sides
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