 Ichneumonidae? Braconidae? with very long ovipositor
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| Isidro |
Posted on 08-05-2007 15:28
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I don't know how it's said this word in English, excuse me. Strange ichneumonid at Tauste, Aragon, Spain, february 2007. 4-5 cm, but the body sizes only about 2 cm. ![img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/8/5/8/f_Pict0008m_4afbfcf.jpg[img]<br />
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[img]http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/8/5/8/f_Pict0009m_5346848.jpg) Thanks! Edited by Isidro on 10-05-2007 08:29 |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 09-05-2007 16:48
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Hello Isidro! The photograph is remained in the box! cthirion |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 09-05-2007 23:50
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Oh, sorry! I don't know what happened. Yesterdey I saw the pictures!   Try now! Thanks!  |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 10-05-2007 00:05
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My guess is family Braconidae but the photo is lacking detail and scale. Many pimpline ichneumonids have long ovipositors but I don't know any pimplines with darkened wings. |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 10-05-2007 07:41
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Braconidae for my!
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| Pierre-Nicolas Libert |
Posted on 10-05-2007 07:47
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With the details visible on the photo it can also be a Ichneumonidae Cryptinae. Have a look at the petiole on the second photograph.
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| cthirion |
Posted on 10-05-2007 10:53
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With share Parasilsila gladiator, I do not know a such long drill nor wings such sunk in this group Cryptinae! Like Chris..... always! One would need a detail of the wing! Edited by cthirion on 10-05-2007 17:43 cthirion |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 10-05-2007 11:01
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I have seen tropical braconids like this (with incredibly long ovipositors) and in general I usually guess if an ichneumonoid has very darkened wings it is most likely to be a braconid. But like cthirion said, we need to see wing venation to be sure. |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 10-05-2007 14:15
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Thaks! I don't have more photos. Sorry. I don't find "Paralsilsila" in Google... |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-05-2007 20:08
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it seems really a braconid wasp. |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 10-05-2007 21:16
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Parasilsila gladiator=Stenarella domator now!
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