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 Diaea dorsata??
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| Iolaire |
Posted on 03-09-2007 11:36
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Hi there, This spider has been subject for discussion for quite some time now. The latest (very uncertain) ID is Diaea dorsata (and then one with some sort of colourvariation or, in fact, a young individual).  I'm still in the dark here. Can anyone give a definite ID? The picture was taken in june/july this year, in my own garden (shrubs, fruittrees and grass) somewhere in the suburbs of the town of Alkmaar (the Netherlands). Edited by Iolaire on 03-09-2007 11:37 Best regards, Iolaire |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 03-09-2007 11:47
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i think that this is not Diaea.. with this photo it can be Philodromidae or Thomisidae.  |
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| Andre |
Posted on 03-09-2007 13:08
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And as its prey: Rhingia campestris [still unknown for Portugal, Jorge!  ] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 03-09-2007 15:48
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no....  |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 03-09-2007 20:58
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Hello! jorgemotalmeida wrote: i think that this is not Diaea.. with this photo it can be Philodromidae or Thomisidae. Looks like a Philodromus dispar female with its broad, white lateral band. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 03-09-2007 21:32
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Philodromus is a good choice! P. dispar I don?t know that species. We have 18 Philodromus known for Portugal. |
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| Iolaire |
Posted on 03-09-2007 21:41
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Cheers you all! P. dispar it'll be (for now) Thanks, Iolaire Best regards, Iolaire |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 03-09-2007 22:05
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Hello! jorgemotalmeida wrote: Philodromus is a good choice! P. dispar I don?t know that species. In my books P. dispar is described as "rather rare" here in Germany, but in the last two or three years it has become very frequent, also in our garden and at toolshed and house. Has outrun the "trivial" P. cespitum by far. Larger pic of another female: http://insektenfo...ntid=15015 And a male: http://insektenfo...ntid=13795 Edited by Juergen Peters on 03-09-2007 22:07 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 03-09-2007 22:08
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this is without doubt a Philodromus |
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| Iolaire |
Posted on 04-09-2007 07:49
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Juergen and Jorge, Again thanks for leading me to Philodromus dispar. After reviewing other pics of this species I'm for about 99% convinced it ?s P.dispar. In Germany maybe a rare species, but in the Netherlands quite common (so I read). There are colourvariations known for this spider and the one in my picture could well be a young female. It never crossed my mind to look into the Phildromus-species, let alone P.dispar 'cos the Dutch name for P.dispar is Black running spider. Looking at my picture "black" is not what comes to mind! Cheers! 
Best regards, Iolaire |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 04-09-2007 17:59
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Hello! Iolaire wrote: mind to look into the Phildromus-species, let alone P.dispar 'cos the Dutch name for P.dispar is Black running spider. Looking at my picture "black" is not what comes to mind! Right, but look at the male on my link above... 
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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