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 Sturmia bella? Jerusalem October 10
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| GlassOWater |
Posted on 10-10-2007 12:52
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Chris Raper, you need to fix your site - Picture windows are frozen sized, and usually in the wrong size. Dorsal view: Edited by GlassOWater on 31-10-2007 13:14 |
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| GlassOWater |
Posted on 10-10-2007 12:53
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Member Location: Posts: 117 Joined: 26.09.07 |
Another dorsal view: |
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| GlassOWater |
Posted on 10-10-2007 12:55
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Lateral view: Oh, and it's a female, right? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 10-10-2007 19:01
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It's a female, it looks 'Sturmiin?' and it might be Sturmia bella. However, there seems to be a second reclinate orbital. So I'd need the specimen to be more sure. Theo |
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| GlassOWater |
Posted on 10-10-2007 21:01
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Impossible, I'm afraid - This one should be sleeping somewhere in Jerusalem right now. If there are certain organs you need to see, perhaps I have suitable pictures. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 10-10-2007 22:23
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Hmm, missing a foot and half the left wing so I'd say it's probably dead anyway by now  From what Theo said he needs a clearer view of the head - particularly the top, showing the arangement of brisles and hairs.  |
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| GlassOWater |
Posted on 31-10-2007 13:13
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Found a bunch more pictures of the specimen, so I compiled them into this. Perhaps this helps? P.S. I'm sure the big one is also of the same guy, not sure how it got so damaged... |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 31-10-2007 21:44
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Still the same: it should be Sturmia bella, but it has 2 reclinate orbitals. these things do happen. Theo |
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| GlassOWater |
Posted on 01-11-2007 08:50
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What do you mean by "these things do happen"? Are you talking about possible variation in the species, or that simply it cannot be identified? And also: Do you mean there are two reclinate setae or two pairs of reclinate setae. In the lateral view of the head I find three pairs of them. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 01-11-2007 21:18
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I ment the first: variation occurs, in this case espcialliy in females. There are 2 pairs of reclinate orbitals. The large pair at the vertex is not counted as such, it is called inner vertical. Theo |
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| GlassOWater |
Posted on 03-11-2007 14:57
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Thank you for your explanations. I will go for Sturmia cf. bella then! |
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