 Pollenia ID. ->Male Pollenia vagabunda
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 24-03-2020 11:37
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Hi! Photo on Finland Kokkola 24 Mar. 2020. Is it possible to get species for that male? Thanks for help. Edited by Pentti Ketola on 25-03-2020 08:47 |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 24-03-2020 11:37
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 24-03-2020 11:37
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-03-2020 12:10
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Hi Pentti, strange looking but the presutural stripe and black basicosta indicates a male Pollenia vagabunda. Simply check tibia 2 for one ad and tibia one for 2 pv. The abdomen is what is strange but it has a bluish shimmer. Best wishes, John John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 24-03-2020 12:37
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Hello! |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-03-2020 17:26
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Hi Pentti, honestly, the genitalia photos are small and very shiny. I cannot see details very well. It will be easier for you to look at the middle tibia for one ad. If so, then P. vagabunda male. Best wishes, John John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 24-03-2020 18:17
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Ok, the middle tibia! |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-03-2020 19:01
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Hi Pentti, very strange specimen. it doesn't agree with vagabunda. I also have trouble matching it to labialis. you can always send it to me for examination, then i can send it back. Otherwise, i'll have to request some more photos. I will try to work with what you have posted for now. I'll revisit this tomorrow. I have a sinus infection and i'd like to relax a bit this evening. I'm having trouble focusing. perhaps you could add better photos of the cerci/surstyli and of the aedeagus. Best wishes, John Edited by johnes81 on 24-03-2020 19:02 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 24-03-2020 19:39
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Ok, cerci/surstyli. |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-03-2020 20:29
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Hi Pentti, much cleaner photo of the cerci! Thank you! Pollenia vagabunda male passes. Best wishes, John John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| Pentti Ketola |
Posted on 24-03-2020 20:37
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Thank you very much! Pentti |
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but don't see the image in the post.
