Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Cheilosia

Posted by Bottin on 12-06-2021 21:05
#1
Hello,

For this one, I started with the idea of C. vulpina but il seems that's not him
For me, face and eyes are hairy.

If someone can help me :

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos283/big/23-05-2021%20Pommeuse-77%2026.JPG
Julien Bottinelli : France : Pommeuse : 77515 : 23/05/2021
Altitude : 80 m - Taille : 9 mm
Réf. : 283581

Thank you by advance
Bottin

Posted by helge on 14-06-2021 18:34
#2
C. barbata subgroup, but difficult, we need a closer look at the genital structure.

Posted by Bottin on 14-06-2021 21:19
#3
It's done
I hope this is good views !

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos284/big/IMG_0302.JPG
Julien Bottinelli : France : Pommeuse : 77515 : 23/05/2021
Altitude : 80 m - Taille : 9 mm
Réf. : 284034

Posted by helge on 15-06-2021 12:31
#4
Hi Bottin,

nice work - but unfortunately the pics are are too blurry.
Please compare with this key:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3592267/

(My guess: C. barbata)

Helge

Posted by Bottin on 15-06-2021 20:00
#5
Hi helge,

I tried better views but I d'ont know if the angle is good
I think it looks like barbata


www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos284/big/IMG_0322.JPG
Julien Bottinelli : France : Pommeuse : 77515 : 23/05/2021
Altitude : 80 m - Taille : 9 mm
Réf. : 284110

Posted by helge on 16-06-2021 17:28
#6
Hi Julien,

looks good! - I compared with my specimen.
C. barbata it is. (Nevertheless, it is very difficult to identify Cheilosia specimens from pictures alone.)

Best wishes, Helge

Posted by Bottin on 16-06-2021 19:48
#7
Great !
Thank you Helge for your help !

Bottin