Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Panorpa communis or vulgaris ?

Posted by Gansucha on 03-08-2021 10:05
#1
Ukraine, Rivne region, July 25.

ukrbin.com//files/37/Panorpa%20sp.%2C%20samitsya0.jpg

Posted by eklans on 03-08-2021 13:27
#2
Hello Gansucha, it's a female Panorpa vulgaris.

Posted by Gansucha on 03-08-2021 15:47
#3
Thank you, Eric !
There is another female that was nearby and which I think is Panorpa communis (?)
ukrbin.com//files/35/Panorpa_communis__samitsya.jpg
Edited by Gansucha on 03-08-2021 15:48

Posted by eklans on 03-08-2021 17:47
#4
Hi Gansucha, I think, it's P. vulgaris, too.
There's a nice demo of the variability here:
https://galerie-i...?ref=44482
right side: females, top: communis, bottom: vulgaris
and your second image looks like the 2nd female vulgaris.

Posted by Gansucha on 03-08-2021 19:29
#5
Yes I agree. that in general the pattern of the wing is darker and resembles Panorpa vulgaris, but I focus on the fact that the first dark spots do not occupy more than one cell ... I think it would be better to leave this copy indefinite.