Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Trichoceridae? from Romania

Posted by cosmln on 05-12-2007 21:31
#1

Hi,

collected couple of days ago (1.December.2007) this tipulid (or limonid?).
very small, at least on what i see normally, around ~4mm body length.
also the antennae are very long maybe is helpful to ID this one.

two photos of the mounted specimen,
cosmln

[EDIT]: title changed

Edited by cosmln on 06-12-2007 22:07

Posted by cosmln on 05-12-2007 21:40
#2

head detail

Posted by Jan Willem on 06-12-2007 15:07
#3

Looks like Trichoceridae to me.

Posted by cosmln on 06-12-2007 22:04
#4

Jan Willem wrote:
Looks like Trichoceridae to me.


Hi Jan,

thanks for that, i didn't know about that family until now.
i will update the subject line.

cosmln

Posted by Andrius on 08-12-2007 16:19
#5

Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case Smile
I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible Smile

Posted by cosmln on 08-12-2007 16:25
#6

Andrius wrote:
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case Smile
I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible Smile


Hi,

i have to check but i think i have that paper.
thanks,
cosmln

Posted by cosmln on 08-12-2007 16:42
#7

cosmln wrote:
Andrius wrote:
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case Smile
I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible Smile


Hi,

i have to check but i think i have that paper.
thanks,
cosmln


just checked that paper, for identification is not useful.
maybe i will go with material at Luiza Ujvarosi. but when will be couple exemplary, not just that one.

cosmln

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 08-12-2007 16:59
#8

Andrius wrote:
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case Smile
I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible Smile


It is not T. regelationis. No spots on the wings.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 08-12-2007 17:01
#9

hmmm.. the photo is very clear and it is possible to have 2 spots, so T. regelationis is a possibility indeed..