Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Trichoceridae? from Romania
Posted by
cosmln on 05-12-2007 21:31
#1
Hi,
collected couple of days ago (1.December.2007) this tipulid (or limonid?).
very small, at least on what i see normally, around ~4mm body length.
also the antennae are very long maybe is helpful to ID this one.
two photos of the mounted specimen,
cosmln
[EDIT]: title changed
Edited by
cosmln on 06-12-2007 22:07
Posted by
cosmln on 05-12-2007 21:40
#2
head detail
#3
Looks like Trichoceridae to me.
Posted by
cosmln on 06-12-2007 22:04
#4
Jan Willem wrote:
Looks like Trichoceridae to me.
Hi Jan,
thanks for that, i didn't know about that family until now.
i will update the subject line.
cosmln
Posted by
Andrius on 08-12-2007 16:19
#5
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania.
Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case

I could only say that your species looks more like
Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or
Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible

Posted by
cosmln on 08-12-2007 16:25
#6
Andrius wrote:
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania.
Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case

I could only say that your species looks more like
Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or
Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible

Hi,
i have to check but i think i have that paper.
thanks,
cosmln
Posted by
cosmln on 08-12-2007 16:42
#7
cosmln wrote:
Andrius wrote:
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania.
Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case

I could only say that your species looks more like
Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or
Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible

Hi,
i have to check but i think i have that paper.
thanks,
cosmln
just checked that paper, for identification is not useful.
maybe i will go with material at Luiza Ujvarosi. but when will be couple exemplary, not just that one.
cosmln
#8
Andrius wrote:
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania.
Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case

I could only say that your species looks more like
Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or
Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible

It is not T. regelationis. No spots on the wings.
#9
hmmm.. the photo is very clear and it is possible to have 2 spots, so T. regelationis is a possibility indeed..