Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphoridae: Onesia cf. floralis ♂
Posted by
eklans on 10-11-2021 14:31
#1
Found that male Calliphoridae this morning on the compost (Ansbach, close to Frankenhoehe Nature Park, old deciduous forest, 2021-11-10).
I think it's a Calliphora but it seems strange to me:
- size > 10 mm
- abdomen green
- parafacialia fine hairs on upper half (if at all)
- orange hairs on postgena
- basicosta black
- anterior spiracle dark
- veins darkened
Can it be loewi?
Edited by
eklans on 12-11-2021 09:46
Posted by
eklans on 10-11-2021 14:34
#2
lateral
Posted by
eklans on 10-11-2021 14:35
#3
frons, antenna, arista
Posted by
eklans on 10-11-2021 14:36
#4
gena, palps
Posted by
eklans on 10-11-2021 14:37
#5
wing, abdomen
Posted by
Tetrao on 10-11-2021 14:45
#6
Would be Happy to know !
Thank for sharing !
Posted by
Zeegers on 10-11-2021 16:17
#7
Why not Onesia ?
Posted by
eklans on 10-11-2021 16:47
#8
Good question: I thought, Onesia should have hairy parafacialia like Bellardia, but that was an error! The prest ia is weak and the post ia seem to be partly broken. Onesia is it (though I fear I must not call it floralis)!

Thank you very much, Theo!
Posted by
EsinM on 11-11-2021 06:20
#9
Looks like a Calliphora subalpina.
Posted by
Zeegers on 11-11-2021 08:07
#10
Yes, but that soecies does not occur in this region
Theo
Posted by
eklans on 11-11-2021 10:31
#11
Hopefully I may call it floralis as I've found evidence in my images using
Revision der Gattung Onesia (H. Schumann) - loosely translated:
"Crucial is also the distance between the compound eyes of the males: it's narrowest distance is longer than the distance between the hind ocelli"
Posted by
eklans on 11-11-2021 10:35
#12
and another one:
"Important is the male's absence of the ventral bristle on the mid tibia"
@EsinM: Thank you! I've excluded Calliphora subalpina as it should have more marginal scutellars.
Posted by
EsinM on 11-11-2021 11:33
#13
I have some very similar copies, I can send them along with the flies for Theo. Or I can take a photo. It's very interesting to find out who it is. Such flies are very active in autumn near beer traps.
Posted by
eklans on 11-11-2021 12:37
#14
I'm looking forward to see the photo.
Posted by
EsinM on 11-11-2021 13:02
#15
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Posted by
EsinM on 11-11-2021 13:03
#16
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Posted by
EsinM on 11-11-2021 13:04
#17
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Posted by
eklans on 11-11-2021 14:28
#18
Your fly looks very similar to my Onesia - except the very blue colour of the abdomen and I'm not sure if there are 3 postsutural ia. But I couldn't find a Calliphora with dark basicosta, gena and a resembling frons - loewia's is narrower.
Posted by
Zeegers on 12-11-2021 08:46
#19
Oh, you got it pinned !
Simply check the number of post IA bristles.
Or make a sharp pic of the thorax.
I mentioned before that none of the exernal featues by Schumann work in mu material ( well, they work 75 %)
Theo
Posted by
eklans on 12-11-2021 09:51
#20
Thanks Theo, I remember your words about Schumann

The pinned fly is from EsinM, Mordovia reserve, it resembles my fly.
Edited by
eklans on 12-11-2021 09:55