Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphoridae: Onesia cf. floralis ♂

Posted by eklans on 10-11-2021 14:31
#1

Found that male Calliphoridae this morning on the compost (Ansbach, close to Frankenhoehe Nature Park, old deciduous forest, 2021-11-10).
I think it's a Calliphora but it seems strange to me:
- size > 10 mm
- abdomen green
- parafacialia fine hairs on upper half (if at all)
- orange hairs on postgena
- basicosta black
- anterior spiracle dark
- veins darkened
Can it be loewi?

Edited by eklans on 12-11-2021 09:46

Posted by eklans on 10-11-2021 14:34
#2

lateral

Posted by eklans on 10-11-2021 14:35
#3

frons, antenna, arista

Posted by eklans on 10-11-2021 14:36
#4

gena, palps

Posted by eklans on 10-11-2021 14:37
#5

wing, abdomen

Posted by Tetrao on 10-11-2021 14:45
#6

Would be Happy to know !
Thank for sharing !

Posted by Zeegers on 10-11-2021 16:17
#7

Why not Onesia ?

Posted by eklans on 10-11-2021 16:47
#8

Good question: I thought, Onesia should have hairy parafacialia like Bellardia, but that was an error! The prest ia is weak and the post ia seem to be partly broken. Onesia is it (though I fear I must not call it floralis)! TumbsUp
Thank you very much, Theo!

Posted by EsinM on 11-11-2021 06:20
#9

Looks like a Calliphora subalpina.

Posted by Zeegers on 11-11-2021 08:07
#10

Yes, but that soecies does not occur in this region Sad

Theo

Posted by eklans on 11-11-2021 10:31
#11

Hopefully I may call it floralis as I've found evidence in my images using
Revision der Gattung Onesia (H. Schumann) - loosely translated:
"Crucial is also the distance between the compound eyes of the males: it's narrowest distance is longer than the distance between the hind ocelli"

Posted by eklans on 11-11-2021 10:35
#12

and another one:
"Important is the male's absence of the ventral bristle on the mid tibia"

@EsinM: Thank you! I've excluded Calliphora subalpina as it should have more marginal scutellars.

Posted by EsinM on 11-11-2021 11:33
#13

I have some very similar copies, I can send them along with the flies for Theo. Or I can take a photo. It's very interesting to find out who it is. Such flies are very active in autumn near beer traps.

Posted by eklans on 11-11-2021 12:37
#14

I'm looking forward to see the photo.

Posted by EsinM on 11-11-2021 13:02
#15

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Posted by EsinM on 11-11-2021 13:03
#16

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Posted by EsinM on 11-11-2021 13:04
#17

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Posted by eklans on 11-11-2021 14:28
#18

Your fly looks very similar to my Onesia - except the very blue colour of the abdomen and I'm not sure if there are 3 postsutural ia. But I couldn't find a Calliphora with dark basicosta, gena and a resembling frons - loewia's is narrower.

Posted by Zeegers on 12-11-2021 08:46
#19

Oh, you got it pinned !
Simply check the number of post IA bristles.
Or make a sharp pic of the thorax.

I mentioned before that none of the exernal featues by Schumann work in mu material ( well, they work 75 %)

Theo

Posted by eklans on 12-11-2021 09:51
#20

Thanks Theo, I remember your words about Schumann Wink
The pinned fly is from EsinM, Mordovia reserve, it resembles my fly.

Edited by eklans on 12-11-2021 09:55