Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phaonia perdita, Muscidae, Hungary, April 2007

Posted by Xespok on 20-12-2007 21:13
#1
This is maybe an easily identifiable Mucid. Phaonia sp?
Edited by Xespok on 20-04-2008 06:32

Posted by Xespok on 20-12-2007 21:14
#2
Another view of the same fly.

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 21-12-2007 19:10
#3
I would say a male Phaonia perdita.

Posted by Xespok on 23-12-2007 23:47
#4
Hi Stephan,

This fly seems to have 2 strong ac. This should rule out perdita, should not it? For a male Phaonia this has very broad space between eyes. On the other hand what other species has this feature. But the description seems to otherwise fit.

The only image of P. perdita that I could see here: [url?http://popgen.unimaas.nl/~jlindsey/commanster/Insects/Flies/Muscidae.html]Web site bz J lindsey from Holland.[/url]

I think this site is not relaible as judged by some of the Muscid photos that are probably not even Muscids.

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 24-12-2007 00:21
#5
Hi Gabor,
the 2 pairs of prescutellar ac are OK for P. perdita. Also, frons width is OK (said to be twice as wide as width of flagellomere, so rather broad for a male Phaonia).
It is present in the gallery, see Nikita's photo.
For the website you have mentionned, there were numerous IDs to correct...

Posted by Xespok on 24-12-2007 08:59
#6
Thx Stephane, now I am completely convinced. Somehow I overlooked Nikita's image. And google also did not come up with it.