Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Gymnosoma sp

Posted by Pierre55 on 03-01-2008 13:42
#1
Pic taken on 02.09.2005 in Belgium.
Graphomya sp ?
Thx in advance Smile
Edited by Pierre55 on 03-01-2008 13:51

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 03-01-2008 13:44
#2
no. Tachinidae - Phasiinae - Gymnosoma sp.

Posted by Pierre55 on 03-01-2008 13:53
#3
Many thanks Jorge : I updated the title... Smile
I thought Tachinidae had long hair on their abdomen...

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 03-01-2008 13:58
#4
there are exceptions Pfft this is one of them. Pfft

Posted by ChrisR on 03-01-2008 14:20
#5
Pierre - the phasiines (Gymnosoma, Phasia, Ectophasia, Cylindromyia etc etc - there are lots of genera) are very atypical tachinids - often having bright colours and just a slightly hairy body. Novices often confuse them with syrphids because they behave similarly and sit on flowers a lot.

They are still tachinids though because they are all parasitoids; they are calyptrate flies; and they (99%!) have a strong subscutellum. Smile

Posted by Pierre55 on 03-01-2008 14:27
#6
Okay, thanks to this new tip :-)
But, and that's strange, I don't have many problems with syrphids : I can recognize them (the family, sometimes the genius) and I don't confuse them with other families...

Again my thanks, Chris :-)

Posted by Zeegers on 03-01-2008 19:45
#7
Ever seen Hammersmidtia ??
Still sure you don't confuse Syrphidae with other families ?


Theo

Posted by Pierre55 on 03-01-2008 20:17
#8
@Theo : Don't know it and don't find it on Fauna Europaea nor in my book about Syrphidae...
Only 1 occurence in Google and the site is not reachable...
Is it another name for it ?

Posted by Gerard Pennards on 03-01-2008 20:56
#9
Yes, You want to try HammersCHmidtia ferruginea! Wink
greetings

Posted by cosmln on 03-01-2008 21:25
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Zeegers wrote:
Ever seen Hammersmidtia ??
Still sure you don't confuse Syrphidae with other families ?


Theo


is one here that i have posted:
http://www.dipter...ad_id=7807
sorry for the quality of the photos

cosmln

Posted by Pierre55 on 03-01-2008 21:28
#11
Thanks Gerard Smile
I read that it is in UK endangered... and not known in Belgium : so I don't think I will encounter it. But that's true, it seems difficult to believe that it is a syrphid Smile

Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 00:09
#12
Hello!

Chris Raper wrote:
the phasiines (Gymnosoma, Phasia, Ectophasia, Cylindromyia etc etc - there are lots of genera) are very atypical tachinids - often having bright colours and just a slightly hairy body.


And in this genus also the name reflects this Wink: Gymnosoma means "naked body" (or abdomen).

Posted by Zeegers on 04-01-2008 09:16
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Sorry for themisspelling


Theo

Posted by Zeegers on 04-01-2008 09:16
#14
Sorry for the misspelling


Theo