Thread subject: Diptera.info :: First fly 2008: Heleomyzidae?

Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 18:45
#1
Hello!

This afternoon at 2 ?C on foliage on the ground near forest (Ostwestfalen/Germany). If it was Tephrochlamys sp., it was rather large for that genus, about 8-9 mm.

Somewhat larger picture:
http://www.foto-u...mm_big.jpg
Edited by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 18:47

Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 18:46
#2
Not visible very well on the pictures, but the abdomen was orange.

Posted by amalia_raluca on 04-01-2008 19:11
#3
Tephrochlamys rufiventris?
http://www.dipter...d_id=10602
Amalia

Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 19:35
#4
Hello, Amalia!

amalia_raluca wrote:
Tephrochlamys rufiventris?


I had T. rufiventris here in November: http://www.dipter...ad_id=9823. But that was much smaller than the one today. This one was more the size of a Suillia.

Posted by amalia_raluca on 04-01-2008 19:42
#5
well then let wait for the specialists answersPfft
Amalia

Posted by mwkozlowski on 04-01-2008 21:01
#6
compare, please with
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=10602

Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 21:54
#7
Hello!

mwkozlowski wrote:
compare, please with
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=10602


Thanks! But I'm afraid I can't decide, whether my fly has a long enough subcostal cell, too...

Posted by Jan Willem on 07-01-2008 07:37
#8
Hi J?rgen,

I think you are right about this not being Tephrochlamys. Just have a look at the bristles on the costa! That looks different in Tephrochlamys! But let's just wait what Andrzej has to say about this specimen!

Posted by Andrzej on 07-01-2008 12:42
#9
Yes !, I fully agree with Jan opinion. There is a memeber of tribe Heleomyzini and probably a Gymnomus or Heleomyza species Smile.
I'm not sure about the anterior orbital bristle (if shorter than the posterior one, so could be Gymnomus caesius species group !).
Andrzej

Posted by Juergen Peters on 07-01-2008 19:49
#10
Andrzej wrote:
Yes !, I fully agree with Jan opinion. There is a memeber of tribe Heleomyzini and probably a Gymnomus or Heleomyza species Smile.
I'm not sure about the anterior orbital bristle (if shorter than the posterior one, so could be Gymnomus caesius species group !).


Thanks, Jan and Andrzej! So really no Tephrochlamys and in any case a new genus for me Smile.