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Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Black fly ID? -> Phaonia sp

Posted by ole on 22-09-2022 20:08

On Phragmites in a small forest lake.

Thanks in advance - Ole

Edited by ole on 29-09-2022 19:50

Posted by ole on 22-09-2022 20:09

Posted by John Carr on 22-09-2022 20:25

Probably Muscidae

Posted by ole on 22-09-2022 23:14

thank you John!

Greetings Ole

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 24-09-2022 06:18

Not sure, but remarkably long antenna gives impression of Phaonia longicornis.

Posted by ole on 24-09-2022 20:17

Hi Nikita
upload extra picts: showing hind tibia bristles more clear - and halters not yellow but light (and out of focus) compare to this thread: https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=30213

Posted by ole on 24-09-2022 20:18

and

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 25-09-2022 12:48

Ole, I just wanted to correct my reply: I mean Ph. angulicornis
As for your doubts.
1. Now we are sure that it is Phaonia.
2. I'll compare your images with museums specimens (we have a large material of Ph. angulicornis and reply again next week.

Posted by ole on 25-09-2022 18:33

Thanks Nikita!
I'm looking forward to it.

greetings Ole

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 27-09-2022 17:51

#10

I'd say that your Phaonia is not angulicornis.
Female Ph. angulicornis looks as on photo.

Posted by ole on 29-09-2022 19:47

#11

Then for now Phaonia sp. - Too bad I didn't catch it.

thanks for the photo of P. angulicornis - and for trying!
Greetings Ole

Edited by ole on 29-09-2022 19:54