Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Reichertella geniculata (ID Colobo); SW Spain

Posted by Andre Burgers on 11-12-2022 16:33
#1

Maybe a Reichertella?? Cool

Photo from Minas de Riotinto (Huelva); October 15, 2020.

Thanks!

Edited by Andre Burgers on 20-12-2022 15:53

Posted by Andre Burgers on 11-12-2022 16:33
#2

2nd:

Posted by Jan Willem on 16-12-2022 08:18
#3

Looks like Scatopse notata, but let someone with more experience with this family respond. :-)

Posted by eklans on 16-12-2022 11:38
#4

What do you think of Ferneiella incompleta, male?
The wing venation and "dull, densely microtrichiose wings" from
Bibionid and Scatopsid Flies, Freeman & Lane, 1985

Posted by Colobo on 16-12-2022 12:27
#5

Your first idea was correct, Andres. Most certainly Reichertella geniculata.

Posted by Jan Willem on 16-12-2022 16:01
#6

Ah, indeed, the wing venation is totally wrong for Scatopse notata.

Posted by Colobo on 16-12-2022 21:59
#7

Not totally wrong, Jan Willem, as the wing venation is quite similar in both species. However in Scatopse notata there is an indication of a short translucent anterior vein arising from slightly angled M1 in direction of R4+5, which is not present in R. geniculata. Ferneiella incompleta has also a stump vein arising from M1 anteriorly, but it is differently shaped. The accentuated terminal rounded bend of very long R4+5 is also characteristic of R. geniculata.

Posted by Andre Burgers on 19-12-2022 13:38
#8

Well, Jan Willem, eklans & Colobo, this is a very interesting conversation. TumbsUp

And a nice boost for my self-esteem. Grin

Thanks, the three of you!

Posted by Jan Willem on 19-12-2022 14:03
#9

Grin