Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphoridae?➡️ Muscidae

Posted by varganimrod on 20-03-2023 09:30
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Hello! Hungary, 2023, March. I think that this is a Pollenia species, about key maybe Pollenia vera. But I can’t find any pictures about it in the internet, so I can’t check this. Could you help me please?

Edited by varganimrod on 20-03-2023 11:52

Posted by varganimrod on 20-03-2023 09:31
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Posted by eklans on 20-03-2023 10:32
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It's a female Muscina prolapsa (a bit early for that but it's getting warmer...

Posted by varganimrod on 20-03-2023 11:52
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Uhh, thanks, than I did a big mistake.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 20-03-2023 13:04
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See my fresh paper on Euroasian Muscina:
https://azjournal.ru/index.php/azjournal/article/view/803/656

Posted by varganimrod on 20-03-2023 15:45
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Hello! I can’t open it, eighter in google and safari. Could you link it in an other way please?

Posted by Juergen Peters on 20-03-2023 20:45
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eklans wrote:
It's a female Muscina prolapsa (a bit early for that

It's here in northwest Germany, too, since a few days. Muscina levida even since the beginning of March.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 27-03-2023 14:04
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Hello! I can’t open it, eighter in google and safari. Could you link it in an other way please?

Paper on Muscina is available here:
https://www.biotaxa.org/azj

Posted by varganimrod on 27-03-2023 18:57
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Thanks! Is that possible that this specimen (what I opened this thread for, so in the first pictures) is not a Muscina propapsa, but a Muscina pascuorum?
I used the key of Nikita, and a hungarian key as well. In this specimen there’s a blue dusting on the abdomen what is only the character of pascuorum, about key. Besides this, the vein is really strongly curved, and this is also in the key, what Nikita has sent me. Unfortunately we couldn’t see the calypters, but about the other features I would say pascuorum. Could you help me please? If this is a prolapsa, why?

Edited by varganimrod on 27-03-2023 18:58

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 28-03-2023 08:54
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Probably you are right: Cell R4+5 more strongly narrowed towards wing margin about 0.37 as wide as at its widest part.
Unfortunately we can't see calypters to be sure.

Posted by varganimrod on 28-03-2023 08:59
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Thank you very much!