Thread subject: Diptera.info :: (No) Tachinid

Posted by Juergen Peters on 10-05-2006 23:58
#1
Hello!

This 10 mm fly looks like a Tachinid, but the wing venation doesn't match. What can it be? Found yesterday afternoon in our garden in Ostwestfalen/Germany on a dogwood bush (Cornus).

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 11-05-2006 07:50
#2
Hi Juergen.
My test - it is rather typical Muscidae.
Nikita

Posted by Paul Beuk on 11-05-2006 07:51
#3
Well, I will burst one dream bubble for you. It is not Tachinidae. The medial vein runs straight to the wing margin and that points towards Muscidae and closely related families. I think this it Muscidae, but perhaps someone else can tell you more precisely which one it is.
Edited by Paul Beuk on 11-05-2006 10:33

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 11-05-2006 09:53
#4
http://micropics.org.uk/Muscidae/Phaonia/variegata/phaonia_variegata.htm
http://www.rosfoto.ru/shop/photo/43124/

Posted by Juergen Peters on 11-05-2006 12:50
#5
Hello, Nikita and Paul!

Thanks! I knew it was no Tachinid, only the stiff hairs and the orange colour, divided by a thick line, reminded me of some Tachinids at first sight.
Edited by Juergen Peters on 11-05-2006 12:51

Posted by Xespok on 11-05-2006 17:33
#6
This species (there does not seem to be many muscids with orange abdomen) seems to be extremely common right now in Hungary in broad leaved forests.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 11-05-2006 17:48
#7
Ph. subventa (=variegata) was very common in end of march in sochi region. If it is realy Ph. subventa.

Posted by Susan R Walter on 12-05-2006 12:52
#8
Aha - I was just going to suggest P subventa as a possibility and ask what the difference from P variegata was. Now, presumably, I know.