Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyiidae impossible to ID...?

Posted by javanerkelens on 04-10-2008 21:13
#1

Hello,

I see somethimes very good photo's on the forum of Anthomyiidae, but mostly the answer is only an confirming that it is a Antho.
Are they to difficult to ID...?

Are the male and female to different from each other or are there whitin the species to many difference, so that an sertain ID is not possible..??

Greatings Joke Smile

Edited by javanerkelens on 04-10-2008 21:15

Posted by javanerkelens on 04-10-2008 21:58
#2

Sorry, I think this wil answer my question mostly....Pfft

Suwa made a good job of an impossible task, and, like all generic keys, it is very difficult to reach a satisfactory conclusion. The reason is that the genera of Anthomyiidae are characterized by the structure of the male and female genitalia. So closely related species may have different chaetotactic characters. These are the main externally visible characters. So that if one writes a key in which one couplet runs to species with an anteroventral seta on the mid tibia (a good and easily recognisable character) one will end up with (as a made up example) 2 species of Botanophila, 4 species of Delia and miscellaneous species of several genera.

The only reliable key to genera would be one to genitalia, and that would explain their phylogenetic groundplan; but means that one would have to dissect every specimen to identify it to genus (and species). And that is exactly what I do when examining material from some little known area, such as the Altai Mountains of S. Russia. When I have 2 or more specimens with the same genitalia, I then study the outward appearance of the fly, make a description, and then I may be able to separate others of the same species. Often however some later specimens turn out to be another, and new, species.

That is why my key to British genera leads to several groups for some of the genera.


From Michael Ackland......


Greatings Joke
(going solo....hi hi)

Edited by javanerkelens on 04-10-2008 22:01