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Hello,
I found nests of Timarcha sp (Coleoptera)
between the end of December at the beginning of January, that I put in a closed jar.
Fifteen days later, there were this dipterous died. I think of the family of Phoridae but without certainty.
3mm, in France.

Sorry for the bad quality of photography and presentation.

Merci

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That is Phoridae, alright. I will try to find out about a relationship with the beetle.

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Thank you, Paul, for this confirmation of identification. I made some researches but nothing decisive.

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Among phorid parasitoids on Chrysomelidae I found just one: Megaselia opacicornis recorded from Chrysomela lappona (see: http://www.sonoma...rank03.pdf and http://www.sonoma...nk2004.pdf).

That does not mean there are no other, I just did not find the on the internet (yet?).

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Another ?lement that I had not mentioned and which perhaps has its importance; it is that two Hymenoptera hatched of eggs of Timarcha.

Not identify for the moment;
approximately 3 mm

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This is for sure a wasp from the Braconidae family, and probably from the subfamily Microgastrinae.
Greetings

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hello,
I found other nests of timarcha and this are females of Hymenoptera (4) I suppose which hatched.

3-4 mm

It is not the subject of this forum but was to give news.

Thanks

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Nice pictures!!
These are wasps of the big family Ichneumonidae, and subfamily Phygadeuontinae.
Most of these wingless wasps belong to a single genus, called Gelis!
Greetings

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Thank you Gerard,

My research on Internet corresponds with your answer.
Now I go tried to put a name on this Ichneumonidae, if I find I will say to you.....


GELINAE (=CRYPTINAE) = Phygadeuontinae.....?

Most members of this large subfamily have a convex clypeus and 5-sided areolet in the forewing. Many species of Gelisare wingless. Habits are diverse. Many are external parasites of Lepidoptera in cocoons, others are parasitic on Symphyta, spiders, Diptera larvae and pupae, or wood-boring Coleoptera larvae. Many are Hyperparasites. Roughly 37 genera have been collected. They include: Dichrogaster, Ethelurgus, Gambrus, Gelis, Isdromus, Mastrus, Mesoleptus, Phygadueon, Pycnocryptus, Endasys, Cubocephalus, Ischnus, Polytribax, Aritranis, Trichosis, Mesostenus, Idiolispa, Aclastus?, Acrolyta, Agrothereutes, Apsilops, Arotrephes, Atractodes, Ceratophygadeuon, Echthrus, Medophron, Messatoporus, Parmortha, Pleolophus, Polyaulon, Pygocryptus, Rhytura, Schenkia, Stibeutes, Stilpnus, Theroscopus, Itamoplex, and Acroricnus.
http://cedarcreek...5016n.html



Paul if you would move my thread in Other insects.....no soucy...


Many thanks

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I think I will leave it here. This which started with Diptera after all. I will leave it together. If people use the search function of the forum, the will get here any way.

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OK

Greetings...