Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Family ID problems.
#1
Central Turkey, 3 times (24-27may) I collected this fly on forewindow of my (rented) car. Altitiude 1100- 1700, 5,5-6mm.
Looked like greenish Tephritidae with clean wings. But it seems to me that Sc do not reach C.
Posted by
Kahis on 04-06-2006 13:32
#2
Tephritidae indeed. Genus
Terellia?
#4
I remove my Tephritidae in head, because it seems to me that mine and new Tephritidae by elck are of the same genus.
Posted by
elck on 08-06-2006 18:08
#5
Sorry, should I have chosen an other title?
Edited by
elck on 08-06-2006 18:08
#6
If I'mn't mistaken, both our flies are, according Kahis, Terellia sp.
So we have to wait John Smith appiarence to ID.
#7
Eheh! And you're expecting and ID from me.....
It is
Terrellia alright, the
serratulae-species complex.
Three species in western Europe, I'm not entirely sure if there are more in this complex in Turkey. It's not
T. fuscicornis, for that one has the third antennal segment black.
But it can be either
T. serratulae or
T. longicauda, males are practicaly inseperable, females however are separable.
For the males you need to look at the genitalia, hte hairs on the surstyli are mostly longer in
T. longicauda and shorter in
T. serratulae, but you need reference material and it is not always clear, so you'll need a series of males. So for the next time: collect females!
John
#8
One family - collect male, another - collect female. Once someboby will tell me - collect larva!
Thank you John. One out of two species - not bad. And I'll check, may be I have female collected.
#9
Hi Nikita,
It's not even so among different families, but even
within one family!
To be on the safe side, just collect series...
John