Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Which Ichneumonidae<Possibly extinct now.
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Photographed in the garden this morning. Can this one be taken to species level?
I know they are hard from photo's..
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To wait, please, they is the holidays for my correspondents!

#3
Please,locality, size, date?

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Hi Camille,
As stated in the first post/Location at Avatar.
Mossbank, Shetland Isles to the North of Scotland.
Size is about 10-12mm ish.
There are quite a few still in the garden on Foxglove Plants (Digitalis).
Regards Roger
Edit; I think I may have overestimated the size of this thing
...8-10mm more accurate I think????
EDIT No.2
Size is more like 6mm Well I got the mm's written properly...a
bit out with the number

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#5
Female Cryptinae,Valemberg cannot say some more either, torn wings or brachypterous?
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Thanks Camille,
I have other photo's of this one which show that the wings are just very short and not torn, and that it does fly for short distances in the undergrowth. There is a very similar one posted here under the title Ichneumon again with longer wings....same Family???
Regards Roger
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I had doubts, and I do not study Phaeogenini, I asked Schwarz and he says also Ichneumoninae Phaeogenini!
Afflicted for the false track!

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Thanks for that Camille

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#9
Hellon Roger,
"Good morning Camille,
this is a interesting Phaeogenini. I hope you have the species.
Have a nice day!
Erich Diller"
#10
If he means by that..Did I collect it, the answer is no, and I haven't seen any more for some time now

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Regards Roger
EDIT.
Found one this afternoon.Or at least it looks the same with short wings....size is about
6mm, I have it in a container, still alive

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#11
Send a photograph if possible, it will have to be put out of alcohol in a small tube!
I will give you the address of DILLER in PM!
Thanks, Friendly!
#12
"CAMILLE WE HAVE A PROBLEM"
I'm afraid my specimen is no more...

. Today being Garbage Collection Day...

.need I say more... I will have to look for another one

Still the town of Lerwick, Waste to Heat System will have benefited for a microsecond ( hope that's the right terminology, don't want Jorge on my case again).
Roger

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I took a couple of photo's of it though...will email them if that's OK. Can't get another posting here for a couple of days.
#13
Dear Camille,
I think the Phaeogenini species by Roger is a new species. I have never seen a red one with short wings. It`s a beautiful species.
Best regards!
Erich
DILLER
#14
OH SHIT



Hope it wasn't the last one....

And that the town of Lerwick appreciated the small amount of heat it provided.
Will have to look for it in the garden again...weather is wet and windy so next week at earliest.
If it is a new species it will have to get a name I suppose..I suggest
Crematedus plonkerii in honour of the Plonker who managed to lose it. ME.
Regards Roger
Other names for this one are invited....keep it clean
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Try putting out a water trap: that will work even when you don't (that is to say also at night: not wishing to malign your good name)
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phil withers wrote:
Try putting out a water trap: that will work even when you don't (that is to say also at night: not wishing to malign your good name)
Maybe a bit late in the season up here..but will give it a try.
What good name?
Regards Roger
24/09/09 07.42 Hrs Local< got the old 666 views Jorge...Devil of a thread this

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