Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Larvae in ant nest

Posted by pierred on 01-07-2009 07:01
#1

Hello,

While looking for Coleoptera living with ants, one member of our french forum found those Diptera larvae :
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos46/big/guaz.jpg
Calmont B. : France : 22/6/2009 : Sain-Julien du Gua : 07
altitude non renseignée - taille : 20 mm
ref:46758

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos46/big/gua_2.jpg
Calmont B. : France : 22/6/2009 : Sain-Julien du Gua : 07
altitude non renseignée - taille : 20 mm
ref:46759

As the larva was trying to leave the nest, the ants brought it back.

Any clues ?
Somebody proposed a Volucella larva, but they are noted to be hosts of bumblebee and wasp nests. Not of ant nests.

Edited by pierred on 02-07-2009 06:10

Posted by pierred on 01-07-2009 18:31
#2

Hello,

Another solution was proposed with Clitellaria ephippium, which is recorded as a parasit living in ant nests.
Does this ring a bell?

Edited by pierred on 02-07-2009 06:11

Posted by pierred on 08-07-2009 07:20
#3

Nobody has any clue about those pictures?

Posted by atylotus on 08-07-2009 14:46
#4

it's definitely not a stratiomyd, for it has no leathery skin. As I'm only an aquatic larvae expert this terrestrial larva looks a bit like a Sciomyzidae or a Muscidae. But perhaps maybe also something like a Phoridae or any other Cyclorrhapha. For instance, it is know that some Phoridae larvae parasitize trhe pupae of Formica (Aenigmatias) or are parasitoids of adult worker ants (Pseudacteon) (see Smith, K.G.V. 1989, immature stages of British flies)

Posted by pierred on 09-07-2009 06:39
#5

Hello,

Thanks for your comments. I'll have a look at this book on immature stages of British flies. I happened to buy it for peanuts on ebay.

Edited by pierred on 09-07-2009 07:13