Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Helina sp (1)

Posted by crex on 19-08-2006 18:42
#1
From today, aprox 65 km NW of Stockholm, Sweden. I will not try to guess family and make a fool of myself ... Smile Would be grateful for ID. TIA!

Edit: Changed subject (Grey fly)
Edited by crex on 01-09-2006 22:44

Posted by crex on 19-08-2006 18:43
#2
A view of abdomen.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 20-08-2006 15:32
#3
Muscidae. Helina female. Possibly depuncta, but I haven't got access to reference material to check this at the moment. Perhaps Kahis can confirm or reject this? Wink

Posted by Susan R Walter on 20-08-2006 15:48
#4
Do you think your grey fly and my grey fly are the same?

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Posted by Tony Irwin on 20-08-2006 16:18
#5
Hi Susan
Apart from yours being a male, and a bit out of focus (Wink), there is a significant difference in that yours has 4 rather than 3 post-sutural dorsocentrals. I'd say it was a muscid and probably Phaoniinae and possibly Helina, but I wouldn't like to say more than that.

Posted by Susan R Walter on 20-08-2006 18:29
#6
Blast and [insert swearword of choice here] Angry - stuff I should remember to do every time. If Kahis's figures are right and it takes 10K specimens to get to grips with diptera, I calculate it's going to take me about 20 years at my current rate. Sad

Thanks Tony - I'll get there eventually, especially with the fab forum's help.Cool

Posted by crex on 21-08-2006 06:37
#7
Thank you Tony. Kahis?

Posted by Kahis on 17-11-2006 09:46
#8
Helina, possibly depuncta is the best I can do. H. depuncta is usually rather yellowish, but not always.

Posted by crex on 17-11-2006 09:55
#9
Thanx Kahis!