Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Neomochtherus cf melanopus; Reinoud

Posted by Andre Burgers on 17-05-2010 07:49
#1

A rather big fly on Pinus pinaster.

Is it possible to ID beyond family level?

Edited by Andre Burgers on 14-11-2010 20:55

Posted by paqui on 18-05-2010 23:21
#2

Hi, I´ve no idea, but here you are the Asilidae forum for the next ones: http://www.dipter...forum_id=2
Regards Andre Smile

Edited by paqui on 18-05-2010 23:22

Posted by Andre Burgers on 28-05-2010 09:34
#3

paqui wrote:
Hi, I´ve no idea, but here you are the Asilidae forum for the next ones: http://www.dipter...forum_id=2
Regards Andre Smile


Thanks Paqui. I did not know that there was a special forum for this group.

Saludos

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 31-05-2010 19:50
#4

Reminds me of Machimus, maybe M. atripes....Frown

Posted by Andre Burgers on 06-11-2010 16:40
#5

Leptogaster wrote:
Reminds me of Machimus, maybe M. atripes....Frown


Missed your post, Lepto.

Thanks for your ID, although there is no count of the species you mention in Spain.

Bedankt, Lepto.Smile

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 08-11-2010 19:56
#6

Also have a look at Neomochtherus melanopus. It is very difficult to determine species from a single picture. Keys are hardly applicable this way. Best bet is a local expert or real oneSmile

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 08-11-2010 19:59

Posted by Andre Burgers on 09-11-2010 08:42
#7

Leptogaster wrote:
Also have a look at Neomochtherus melanopus. It is very difficult to determine species from a single picture. Keys are hardly applicable this way. Best bet is a local expert or real oneSmile


Thanks for taking your time, Reinoud.Smile

I will consider this species too, but I know the extreme difficulties using photos as only means in ID.Frown

Is there a cientific name for "Machinus group"?

Thanks anyway,
André

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 09-11-2010 18:42
#8

Andre Burgers wrote:
[quote]Leptogaster wrote:
Is there a cientific name for "Machinus group"?

Thanks anyway,
André


I think the group consists of: Machimus + Tolmerus and Neoepitriptus. Maybe there are more genusses (what happened to Epitriptus for instance) let an expert react too. These genusses are very similar in appearance and form a group because of it. Probably it will not end here. Research is going on.

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 09-11-2010 18:43

Posted by Andre Burgers on 10-11-2010 08:02
#9

Leptogaster wrote:
Andre Burgers wrote:
[quote]Leptogaster wrote:
Is there a cientific name for "Machinus group"?

Thanks anyway,
André


I think the group consists of: Machimus + Tolmerus and Neoepitriptus. Maybe there are more genusses (what happened to Epitriptus for instance) let an expert react too. These genusses are very similar in appearance and form a group because of it. Probably it will not end here. Research is going on.


Bedankt Reinoud.Smile

So things are much too complicated for me. Thanks for your list of generaWink to be taken into acount.

André

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 10-11-2010 14:11
#10

André, to make things worseGrin ,please note that i am now more convinced that it is a Neomochtherus cf melanopus. Neomochtherus is not part of the Machimus group!

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 12-11-2010 23:41

Posted by Andre Burgers on 11-11-2010 08:40
#11

Leptogaster wrote:
André, to things worseGrin ,please note that i am now more convinced that it is a Neomochtherus cf melanopus. Neomochtherus is not part of the Machimus group!


Reinoud,

Thanks again. I will store this one as Neomochtherus cf melanopus until further notice.Wink

Groeten,
andré