Thread subject: Diptera.info :: mating flies - not < 18 years -

Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 14-09-2006 10:08
#1
hello flyforum,

These redish big-eyed flies enjoyed the nice wheather of this week in september.
Must be a attempt for a last generation this year..
place: Amsterdam Forest

What kind of flies are these?

robert heemskerk

Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 14-09-2006 10:08
#2
Shock
Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 14-09-2006 10:09

Posted by Kahis on 14-09-2006 10:56
#3
Pipunculus (Pipunculidae)

Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 14-09-2006 11:26
#4
Thank you for your comment Kahis!

robert Smile

Posted by Paul Beuk on 14-09-2006 14:38
#5
Kahis, are the setae on the mesonotum not too short for Pipunculus? I thought they might be Tomosvaryella...

Posted by David Gibbs on 14-09-2006 14:54
#6
certainly Pipunculus, very likley Pipunculus campestris Latreille, 1802

Posted by Kahis on 14-09-2006 16:04
#7
Paul Beuk wrote:
Kahis, are the setae on the mesonotum not too short for Pipunculus? I thought they might be Tomosvaryella...


Definitely not Smile Not too short that is, and also definitely not Tomosvaryella as that genus has crossvein R-M near middle of discal cell.

Posted by Kahis on 14-09-2006 16:12
#8
David Gibbs wrote:
certainly Pipunculus, very likely Pipunculus campestris Latreille, 1802


Perhaps, but Pipunculus is still unrevised and nobody has apparently seen the types of P. campestris; all descriptions of this species are based on wishful thinking, not type material. The types have apparently been found in Paris and I know that Dr. Kehlmaier is now working with this rather problematic genus.

Posted by David Gibbs on 14-09-2006 16:20
#9
quite so, i revise my comment to "very likley the species we call Pipunculus campestris in Britain"

Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 16-09-2006 21:54
#10
thank you all, I'll call it Pipunculus sp. (Pipunculidae)

robert,