Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Musca
#1
Turkey, Side, 28 sept.
Using Zimin's key species level ID is impossible. But it seems to me that here there are experts which know the way. If so, please, explain me how.
#2
Hi Nikita - Nice shot!
It's a
Musca, but not a species I know . It could be
sorbens, but your nice shot doesn't show any of the key characters!

Amazingly there are
no images of
sorbens available on the net (according to Google) - despite it being one of the most important disease vectors in the world! Another good reason to support Diptera.info!

#3
Thank you Tony.
Could it be Musca larvipara?
Nikita
#4
I did consider that but Zimin suggests that
autumnalis and
larvipara are very similar (apart from the suprasquamal and genal hairs). Your specimen and
autumnalis have very different thoracic markings, which I would have though he would have mentioned - but I might be wrong!

#5
Tony, I collected several more flies (to broke out wing and find suprasquamal hairs). My result is: sternite 1 with hairs (so, not M. sorbens), only hind suprasquamal hairs (I'm not sure), front very narrow - M. domestica vicina. May be?
Nikita
#6
Nikita - Check the propleural depression (just in front of the anterior spiracle) for short black hairs - if it is
bare, it is
not domestica.
#7
Again in Side.
Last year I regarded 2-nd sternite as 1-st. Really 1-st is bare.
It seems it is really
M.sorbens
Nikita
#8
Excellent! This is a really important photo - as I said before - no other photos of
sorbens available on the net!
#9
Collect several flies for you, Tony?
#11
An addition about life of M.sorbens:
M.sorbens as a prey of Oxybelus quatuordecimnotatus.