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This lives on top of it's net, net more like flat.
doubt that this id is correct, bud do tell me in any case.
http://agrozoo.ne...ver=106228

This lives undernetath it's net, net more like 3D. I should say it wastly populates like 99% of this meadov, while there were only a few of upper specimens.
http://agrozoo.ne...6fef9bb319
http://agrozoo.ne...1a3cefec72

Both on same meadov, Slovenia, september 2010.

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Hi!

Agelena labyrinthica, Agelenidae, and Linyphia triangularis, Linyphiidae (most likely, one should have a dorsal view - not easy with those Liniphyiids...).