Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Trichocera hiemalis?

Posted by Andre Jas on 31-10-2006 16:04
#1
Hi,

Just this one photo. App. 20mm, sept. cold night.

Andr

Posted by Andre Jas on 31-10-2006 16:05
#2
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Posted by Xespok on 31-10-2006 16:26
#3
This complex antenna is very rare in this region of Nematocera, and should allow easy ID for the knowledgable (not me). I think Trichoceridae never have this comb-like antennae, so I would put this down as a Limoniid crane fly.

Posted by Andre Jas on 31-10-2006 16:38
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Hi Xespok,
Yeah I was looking at those antennae aswell. Couldn't find anything with those, so I got with what I've got (not much, just this shot) and ended up with Limoniidae, Pediciidae, Tipulidae and Trichoceridae.
I'll wait for the other experts Smile. Thanks.
Andr
Edited by Andre Jas on 31-10-2006 16:39

Posted by Chen Young on 01-11-2006 16:56
#5
in the genus Rhipidia (Rhipidia) in the Limoniidae, or Limonia (Rhipidia) in the Tipulidae.

Posted by Andre Jas on 01-11-2006 17:01
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In the systematics I find both Rhipidia and Limonia under Limoniidae. Is that correct?

Andr

Posted by Paul Beuk on 01-11-2006 20:29
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Some systematists believe Limoniidae are not a family but a subfamily of Tipulidae.

Posted by Chen Young on 01-11-2006 20:29
#8
can both be found as genera in Limoniidae. Both Rhipidia and Limonia used to be subgenera within genus Limonia, Limonia (Rhipidia) and Limonia (Limonia). During the last updating of systematics of crane flies, these subgenera were upgraded to genus, thus Rhipidia and Limonia both become genera within Tribe Limoniini in subfamily Limoniinae of family Limoniidae.

Posted by Andre Jas on 01-11-2006 21:49
#9
Okay,

Now I've got things straight again.
Thanks both of you.

Andr