Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Pipiza? Cheilosia? or other -> Paragus haemorrhous/tibialis

Posted by brigitteu on 25-09-2011 21:45
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Hi

very small hoverfly, about 5-6 mm, dark, hairy eyes, wings mostly open, it seems with reddisch spot on abdomen . .
Switzerland, 23.09.2011, 430 msm, near Lake Zurich, near gardens and brook, on a blade of grass

Is an ID possible?

Thanks a lot, kind regards, Brigitte
Edited by brigitteu on 29-09-2011 13:59

Posted by brigitteu on 25-09-2011 21:46
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Posted by brigitteu on 25-09-2011 21:46
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Posted by Pierre-Yves on 26-09-2011 09:02
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Hi Brigitteu

With this face I would have said Paragus haemorrhous but I'm not sure.

P-Y

Posted by brigitteu on 26-09-2011 18:01
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Hi Pierre-Yves

no wonder I'm confused about this fly :-) Paragus, never thought of this one. Thanks you for ID!

We do have 12 Paragus on Checklist for Switzerland. So it will stay Paragus sp.?
A frontal view of face would help?

Kind regards and thanks, Brigitte
Edited by brigitteu on 26-09-2011 18:05

Posted by Pierre-Yves on 28-09-2011 18:19
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Hi Brigitteu,

It's espcially the profile view of the head than lead me to Paragus haemorrhous, but I have never seen this specie in my region. You can stay with Paragus sp. but may be someone will confirm the specie name. Wink

P-Y

Posted by brigitteu on 28-09-2011 19:37
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Hi Pierre-Yves

sooner or later I'll try to show my pics in a homepage, the ID's will be public. So I'm very happy about each ID which goes to species, it will be much more interesting for homepage visitors too. But if species isn't not enough sure I prefere to stay with c.f. or sp. in public.

It would be very welcome if you could give me your help for the level of ID :-) species, c.f., sp. because my english is not well enough to "feel" the small differences between. I'm sorry about.

Thanks a lot for ID!
Greetings from Switzerland, Brigitte

Posted by Andre on 29-09-2011 00:00
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This is Paragus haemorrhous/tibialis. One of both. If you have a good view on the sternites, we can make a nice ID. Otherwise not.

Posted by brigitteu on 29-09-2011 14:09
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Hi André

"If you have a good view on the sternites", that's a ventral view, isn't it? The little Paragas was not as cooperative :-)
- not collected, I know . . .

Paragus haemorrhous/tibialis is already a nice ID! Thanks a lot for confirmation and specification!
I'm happy about, kind regards, Brigitte

Posted by Pierre-Yves on 02-10-2011 12:59
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Andre wrote:
This is Paragus haemorrhous/tibialis. One of both. If you have a good view on the sternites, we can make a nice ID. Otherwise not.


Thanks a lot Andre !

What documentation do you use to identify Paragus species ? I have some difficuties to find a good key of the North-West species (French species in particular) !

Thanks a lot again !

P-Y