Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Termite and wasp?????

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 12-11-2006 20:22
#1
Hi fly (and now HYM)forum Smile too! ehe


I took this one in Serra da Estrela not so far from Seia. This was took near the famous "Cabe?a da Velha".

The one white is ISOPTERA - termite. But the other one intrigued me.
I think that is a wasp because antenna doesn?t seem from an ant, and the eyes, and head format remember me more a wasp than an ant.
what do you think?

The termite has about 4 mm and wasp about 1 mm. Indeed, I just realize that wasp in photo!!!!! not there???!!!!

Please see this fantastic duo. Smile

static.flickr.com/107/295576509_822775c92e.jpg

of course, we will need to see it bigger:

http://www.flickr...509&size=l
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 12-11-2006 20:24

Posted by cthirion on 12-11-2006 22:06
#2
Proctotrupoidea female not winged....first attempt!Wink

Posted by Gerard Pennards on 12-11-2006 23:13
#3
Hmmm,
My vote would go for Ceraphronoidea, so the choice is between Ceraphronidae or Megaspilidae.
If I would have to put money on it, I'd vote for Ceraphronidae! Grin
Greetings, Gerard

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 01:34
#4
Gerard Pennards wrote:
Hmmm,
My vote would go for Ceraphronoidea, so the choice is between Ceraphronidae or Megaspilidae.
If I would have to put money on it, I'd vote for Ceraphronidae! Grin
Greetings, Gerard


why you think this wasp can be Ceraphronoidea? which characters in photo told you that coud be that family? Thank you!
Perhaps it would help to see a much bigger size. Take a look on this size:

http://www.flickr...630&size=o

Proctoss... appears! Smile

I wish to know which can be this termite too. The photo needs total ID, at least, genus level. Smile
Thank you.
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 02:05

Posted by Paul Beuk on 13-11-2006 08:46
#5
Hmm, I would not be surpised if it was Scelionidae either...

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 11:38
#6
Proctotrupoidea, Ceraphronoidea, Scelionidae .... so many guess.. it is not easy. Sad see the bigger image, it could help to realize which this wasp could be...
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 13:51

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 14-11-2006 11:22
#7
please... who can help on ID of this wasp?

Posted by Gerard Pennards on 14-11-2006 15:38
#8
Well Jorge,
As you see (by the answers given so far) the problem is that on the picture there are not enough details visible to put a name on it with certainty. Our guesses go into the same direction, because Proctotrupoidea, Ceraphronoidea and Scelionidae are close relatives within Hymenoptera.
People like me see the picture and a name pops up in the head, but only based on the general appearence, not based on clear characters in the picture.
It will be hard to come to a definite conclusion if the specimen is not available! Sad
Greetings,

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 14-11-2006 16:05
#9
Hi

ok. I see. And if we advance with Dryinidae family?

No, I don?t have the specimen. Sad

Perhaps Proctoss can give us some clues! Smile