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Hello!

Here two Muscids (size of a normal house fly) from yesterday night at our house (Ostwestfalen/Germany). The one on pics 1+2 should belong to genus Phaonia (?). Is the one on pic 3 a Polietes? Thanks in advance!

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Hello!

Here two additional indivuduals of the first fly from tonight:

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Jurgen

What about Muscina for your 3rd image? I don't think Polietes has that orange tip to the scutellum, and Muscina spp do.

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Hello, Susan!



That was my first guess, too. But when looking at the gallery, I found that this genus has a rather Calliphoridae-like bend in its wing venation: http://www.dipter...oto_id=916 which I can't see on my specimen.

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Jurgen

I thought the M vein wasn't bent enough too, but then I saw Jan's new picture of Muscina stabulans in the gallery and wondered...maybe they vary a bit or maybe the angle of the shot is important in how you see the vein.

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Hello, Susan!



Ah, thanks! I did not see the newer pics, yet, only had a look at the M. prolapsa photos. The vein in stabulans seems to be much less bent than in prolapsa, but still more than in my specimen. Unfortunately I don't know the other two Muscina species here in Germany (levida and pascuorum, according to "Entomofauna germanica".

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Jurgen

See my thread from a while ago re Muscina levida - it shows a clearly bent M vein (not helping my theory, but never mind). I'll get it into the gallery when I have a moment. http://www.dipter...#post_5426 See also Gabor's thread http://www.dipter...post_14363 - quite a gentle bend there.

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Hello, Susan!



Thanks a lot! The one in the second thread resembles mine much more with its only slightly bent M vein.