Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Aneomochtherus hungaricus cf, Asildae, Hungary

Posted by Xespok on 09-02-2007 10:57
#1

I hope someone can help me with these Asilids. I do not have any literature on this family.

Edited by Xespok on 04-08-2021 16:23

Posted by Xespok on 09-02-2007 10:57
#2

Another view of this yellow-legged largish species.

Posted by Lukasz Mielczarek on 18-02-2007 23:36
#3

Neomochterus sp. I can only say not N. palipes

Posted by Xespok on 19-02-2007 17:05
#4

I checked, this genus has not yet been recorded from Hungary. So any species would be a new for Hungary! I assume no one can determine this at the species level without having the specimen.

Posted by Lukasz Mielczarek on 19-02-2007 18:32
#5

Strange.
In Hungary should be Neomochtherus pallipes and N. flavipes. Neomochtherus pallipes has black antenae and I think it is common species.
I have also description in my key to Asilidae(Trojan, 1970) male of N. shineri and it is very similar to female on the photo.



Sorry for my english

Posted by Xespok on 20-02-2007 11:57
#6

I think the valid genus name here is Aneomochtherus that is why I did not find it. This is a new genus by Lehr (1996). Do you know what the difference is between N. and A. genera?

In faunaeur.org three species are recorded for Hungary: A. flavicornis, flavipes and hungaricus. No Neomochterus sp is recorded from Hungary, so there is neither confirmed record of N. pallipes nor N. schineri. Schineri is recorded from virtually all neighboring countries of Hungary, so its presence in Hungary is quite possible.

The Asilidae fauna of Hungary is not known properly.

Posted by Xespok on 18-03-2007 14:50
#7

After a few rounds of correspondence with experts this is fly is most likely N. pallipes. Faunaeur.org is not up-to-date as far as the Asilids are concerned.

Thx for everyone for the help.

Posted by Markus Gebel on 18-02-2020 09:44
#8

I think this species looks like 'Neomochtherus schineri'.

Posted by piros on 18-02-2020 10:17
#9

I downloaded and enlarged these pics, and it turned out that the first two antennal segments are red (3rd black), all bristles on the scutum are white, and the ovipositor is relatively high, so my guess is Aneomochtherus hungaricus.

Greetings,

Henrik

Posted by Xespok on 04-08-2021 16:22
#10

Great!

Henrik, can you provide me Asilidae literature on this species?

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 04-08-2021 20:19
#11

Most complete work is Tsacas 1968. In my experience males are bit easier to ID.

Posted by Xespok on 04-08-2021 21:13
#12

Can you send me that work?

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 05-08-2021 00:33
#13

File sent :-)

Posted by Xespok on 05-08-2021 07:19
#14

The first book seem to be out of stock, but seems to cover only the North-Europaean fauna.

The second link does not work, but I could somehow get around it, and find the publications of Tsacas in the library.

https://naturalis.on.worldcat.org/v2/search/detail/68473806?queryString=Tsacas&clusterResults=true&groupVariantRecords=false

The publication is available for loan, I will need to check is international loan is available. The more serious problem is that I unfortunately do not speak French Sad

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 05-08-2021 14:23
#15

I sent you Tascas 68 by wetransfer.....keresztespok@ You should have received a message...