Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Eurina ducalis and calva? >Yes, by Sara

Posted by piros on 17-12-2012 01:08
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Found near Szeged, S. Hungary, on 01. 05. 2012. Is it possible to ID this Eurina sp. (my best guess is E. ducalis), based on these pictures?
Thanks for any comment!
Henrik

Edited by piros on 14-01-2013 12:49

Posted by piros on 17-12-2012 01:11
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Posted by piros on 17-12-2012 01:13
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Posted by piros on 17-12-2012 01:14
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Posted by piros on 22-12-2012 16:18
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I found a key and descriptions of Eurina here:

http://archive.org/stream/chloropidaeeinem00beck/chloropidaeeinem00beck_djvu.txt

Based on this (and according to my understanding of it) the fly above should be Eurina ducalis indeed. A year earlier, and a nearby, but different site I found another Eurina, which I thought was calva. I attache a few pictures of it below.

Posted by piros on 22-12-2012 16:19
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Posted by piros on 22-12-2012 16:25
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I would greatly appreciate confirmation of these IDs, especially that of E. ducalis, because, according to Fauna Europaea, this sp. is not known from Hungary, and I do not have any experience with this group of flies.

Thanks in advance!

Henrik

Edited by piros on 22-12-2012 16:25

Posted by piros on 02-01-2013 12:30
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Just changed the title...

Posted by Sara21392 on 14-01-2013 12:01
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Unfortunately I don’t have this species (E. ducalis) in my keys, but according the site that you introduced (although is German and used translator for), I think you are right; Then, I think name of both species are true.

Posted by piros on 14-01-2013 12:52
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GreatGrin, thank you very much indeed!
(I also used translator...Smile)

All the best for 2013!

Henrik

Posted by piros on 14-01-2013 15:11
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I did not find any picture of Eurina in the Gallery, so I submitted some of these pics there. I am affraid I maneged to submit two of them twiceFrown. Sorry about that, Paul!

Best regards,

Henrik

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Posted by Paul Beuk on 14-01-2013 16:37
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All sorted and no problem. Check out the left column with the latest gallery images. All different ones. Wink

Posted by piros on 14-01-2013 17:35
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Thanks, Paul!

Posted by von Tschirnhaus on 18-05-2013 14:42
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Eurina calva Egger, 1862 (Chloropidae). Though there occur only 7 Eurina spp. in the Palaearctic, they are not easy to identify, e.g. partly after the key of Duda 1933 in Lindner. After the unpublished experience of M.v.Tschirnhaus in E. calva the setulae on the ocellar triangle arise from 4 or more rows of dark punctures lateral of the central groove, being light and very short (ducalis: 2 (or 3 incomplete) rows; deep black and relatively long), and the setulae on the scutum are dense and light (ducalis: deep black). The 2nd antennal segment (as mentioned in the literature) is not longer than the 3rd (ducalis: slightly longer). The species may develop in the root system or shoots of Phragmites australis (Poaceae). The three species triangularis Becker, ducalis Costa and calva were swept together on young reed shoots in Greece by M.v.T., though ducalis is known to produce galls on Scirpus tuberosus (Cyperaceae) and larvae of triangularis are boring in the stems of the same Scirpus host-species.

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