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Photographed at Novo Hodzhvo, July 19th. Possible to ID?

Leif

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wwozeerss!!! can you collect this for me?!
Could it be Saropogon or Molobratia? I do not know by sure.. But I would be more inclined to the former genus.

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And what about Dasypogon? Dark legs and those marks on the abdomen are rather typical. Just thinking...

Jorge, I would rule out Molobratia

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indeed, I think Dasypogon is much better. Did you see the strong spur in the apical tibiae? Feature for Dasypogoninae! So Molobratia and even Saropogon could never be!!

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Thanks for comments. Unfortunately, this is the only shot I got before it flew away.

Leif

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Yes, I saw the nice spur That's why I ruled out Molobratia (which looks different too). But also Saropogon shows the Dasypogoninae spur although usually not so well. The combination of looks, colour legs and abdominal pattern was what made me think of Dasypogon

Leif, one shot and the fly takes off... I suffer from that too often

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Just to comment, both Molobratia and Saropogon belong to the Dasypogoninae and do have a similar spur on front tibiae. On this picture the spurs are clear for Molobratia: http://libellchen.deviantart.com/art/Molobratia-Teutonus-187984979

Molobratia has much thinner and longer legs and has red antennae.

In Engel Molobratia is described as Dasypogon teutonus!

On this picture.

The difference between Dasypogon and Saropogon is that the mystax in Dasypogon almost reaches the antennae and in Saropogon only coveres the lower part of the face. I think we can see that....this is a Saropogon species.

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Reinoud, thanks for all the explanations I see how that works now.

And I should keep my ugly mouth shut

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I still have some doubts though..: )

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wait... Molobratia is a Stepogoninae...

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In Geller-Grimm keys it is treated as Dasypononinae and also in Engel. I guess due to the fact that it has indeed an apical spur in front tibiae as other Dasypogoninae, only that it is rudimentary. In other taxonomyc classifications, it appears in Stenopogoninae. I guess it all depends on the point of view



It shouldn't be consolation but it truely conforts me a bit

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well, int the catalog of Iberian Diptera it appears as Stenopogoninae... I doubt that someone would rely only in the tibial spur for this split.

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It appeared in a lot of lists in stenopogoninae (i Always wondered why, there is a reason but not yet clear to me : )) @ Piluca, the spur is far from rudimentary! look at the picture in the link, the spurs are huge : ). At the moment i'm reading Torsten Dikow's phylogeny of the asilidae which is probably the most comprihensive study to date.
Link: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1439609209000087

He places the Molobratiini in the Dasypogoninae as a tribe.

Cutting a corner.....

The split was made in the past based on the lack of spines on the ovipositor and the shape of sternite 8 by Lehr.

See page 103 Dikow. His study shows that Molobratia (Molobratiini as a tribe) is "positioned deeply in the Dasypogoninae".

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Thanks, Reinoud! Saw it now. Definitely it is a proper spur Always learning something!