Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Empididae - Clinoceridae - Clinocera stagnalis
#1
Hi
* locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL
* date - 2007.05.
* size - 3-4 mm (small fly) wings almost 2x the body's size
* habitat - near river
* substrate - ??
EDIT ---> Title changed from "Mystery fly.. another" to "Empididae - Clinocera sp." and finally to "Empididae - Clinoceridae - Clinocera stagnalis"
#2
other view. i have almost sure that this is a new family for me.
#4
Empididae, Clinocerinae...
#5
empidid --- venation wing fits well, but strange.. long proboscis is absent.

(perhaps broken, but it is unusual because all empidids I caught never broke their proboscis.

)
#6
Long proboscis (really long that is) is really only found in Empidinae (in Europe). Other subfamilies have shorter probosces, those in Clinocerinae possibly the shortest.
Posted by
igor on 23-05-2007 08:05
#7
Hi Paul,
There are a few exceptions in Clinocerinae, e.g. Hypenella, but they are not from Europe.
All the best,
Igor

#8
Now you understand why I included the '(in Europe)'.

Posted by
igor on 23-05-2007 08:36
#9
ok, ok



#10
ok.

And what about possible genus?
Posted by
igor on 23-05-2007 11:48
#11
Sorry

Clinocera sp.
#12
This is Clinocera stagnalis.
It is holarctic in distribution, found in a variety of habitats and appears to have a wide temperature tollerance.
Brad Sinclair
Posted by
Kahis on 23-05-2007 22:39
#13
Whoa, yet another guru has joined the fray.

Welcome to the forum and thanks for the authoritative answer.
#14
And this species is new for mainland Portugal.

Thank you.
May I ask which are the definitive characters for C. staganalis that we can see in these photos? Thank you again.